As Wildfire Rage in CA, Trump Tweets "Mismanagement" Threatens to Cut Funds

Southern California fires force evacuation of Malibu. Trump calls "gross mismanagement", and threatens to cut funds.

Raging wildfires across California have killed at least five people and driven 157,000 people from their homes, fire officials said Friday. Near Los Angeles, the affluent beachside town of Malibu was ordered evacuated as a wind-driven blaze jumped the U.S. 101 Freeway and raced toward the sea.

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There are three different fires now.

Gross Mismanagement

Here's the Tweet if you wish to reply.

Trump Draws Ire from Firefighters

Please consider Trump draws ire from firefighters, celebrities for tweet about California fires

> The leader of the union that represents a majority of California's firefighters said Saturday that President Donald Trump should apologize for blaming the state's deadly wildfires on "poor" forest management.

> The Camp Fire in northern California reduced the town of Paradise to rubble and claimed the lives of nine people, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, known as Cal Fire. In addition, two bodies were found Friday night in Malibu within the 70,000-acre Woolsey Fire zone, Los Angeles County sheriff's officials said.

> Actor Patricia Arquette tweeted, "Maybe Trump would like to see what would happen if California threatened to withhold our federal taxes."

> The Pasadena Firefighters Association declared the president "wrong."

> "The fires in So. Cal are urban interface fires and have NOTHING to do with forest management," the association tweeted.

> Rice agreed. "Malibu is not a logged area," he said. "It’s rolling hills and chaparral."

> What's more, he said, most of the state's forests are managed by the federal government.

> "The president of the United States is ignorant of the process of forest management and wildfires," he said.

> Gov.-elect Gavin Newsom tweeted, "Lives have been lost. Entire towns have been burned to the ground. Cars abandoned on the side of the road. People are being forced to flee their homes. This is not a time for partisanship. This is a time for coordinating relief and response and lifting those in need up."

Welcome to Hell

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> In one harrowing video posted to YouTube, one evacuee who returned to Paradise, the community of some 27,000 that was completely leveled by the Camp Fire, and was also the source of the most fatalities as elderly residents in a local retirement community struggled to flee, shared footage of charred bodies left behind by the storm. "I went to her house right here with this white car to take them out. She had to put her makeup on. She died because of it," he can be heard saying in the video.

Gross Insensitivity

From the information presented there does not appear to be "gross mismanagement".

But even IF there is, it is is grossly insensitive at best, for Trump to have made that Tweet.

It is inexcusable.

Reader Comments

  1. Since there are regularly forest fires in California there should be some lines cut in the forest to partition the forests so the fires can not spread so quickly so if fire starts in one part it burns only that part of forest.
  2. Also areas where people live should again have lines cut around them in the surrounding forest to divide the residential areas so the forest fires can not spread so easy to them.
  3. Furthermore the building codes need to be updated so that in a fire prone area only roofs made from from metal are allowed on buildings so if the roof gets flying ash with spark in it the whole house does not burn down.
  4. Also if one has a swimming pool they should pump that out to the surrounding grass and trees around house to make them wet when forest fires are coming near so the fire does not take as easily.
  5. Trump is right that there has been obvious mismanagement of the forests but is it in forest controlled by State of California or forests controlled by Federal government is another matter.
  6. As always Trump is an insensitive buffoon that does not seem to know how to tweet in a little more thoughtful way.

Thanks to JL for those comments.

Number four is an individual action, number one is a government action.

Some readers noted this is no different than living in a hurricane or flood zone. I agree. People who live in such places do so voluntarily and they should pay the bill.

Putting a tax on all of California or subsidizing cheap insurance is the wrong approach.

As a Libertarian, I do not like suggestion 3. But I do agree that more information about the benefits of fire-proof roofs, perhaps fiberglass shingles would help.

None of this excuses gross insensitivity.

Correct Response

Trump should have shown empathy and volunteered to help California work out a better fire prevention program.

That would have gained him votes in the next election rather than costing him.

Trump repeatedly steps on his own feet. He could easily have gained votes out of this tragedy, at no cost to anyone.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (24)
No. 1-12
Zardoz
Zardoz

A pig is gonna act like a pig.

Wagner_5
Wagner_5

Translation of Trump tweet(s): "I don't like California"

There really is not much more substance.

JL1
JL1

Since there are regularly forest fires in California there should be some lines cut in the forest to partition the forests so the fires can not spread so quickly so if fire starts in one part it burns only that part of forest.

Also areas where people live should again have lines cut around them in the surrounding forest to divide the residential areas so the forest fires can not spread so easy to them.

Furthermore the building codes need to be updated so that in a fire prone area only roofs made from from metal are allowed on buildings so if the roof gets flying ash with spark in it the whole house does not burn down.

Also if one has a swimming pool they should pump that out to the surrounding grass and trees around house to make them wet when forest fires are coming near so the fire does not take as easily.

If the water pipes still have water in that situation obviously it is easier to use that but houses that have swimming pools should have a pump so they can use that if there is no longer water in the water pipes.

Trump is right that there has been obvious mismanagement of the forests but is it in forest controlled by State of California or forests controlled by Federal government is another matter.

As always Trump is an insensitive buffoon that does not seem to know how to tweet in a little more thoughtful way.

lol
lol

taxes gonna soar!hurricanes,wildfires,floods,with virtually every state and fed gov't hopelessly insolvent and completely dependent on ever increasing taxes,fees and relentless money printing 2019 shaping up to be the year of the inflation wilfire!

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

How is this any different than people choosing to live in hurricane and flood prone areas and then expecting the Federal government to subsidize home owners insurance AND clean up after a disaster? People need stop making bad decisions! And that usually happens when financial incentive to take on risk is removed.

Ted R
Ted R

As long as people continue to build homes and live in areas that humans were never meant to inhabit than these kind of natural disasters will continue to happen. Same thing applies to people who continue to live close to a beach. It all goes back to human overpopulation. I really feel sorry for all the insurance companies that will be stuck paying tens of billions of dollars to settle fire claims. Hopefully people will learn from these fires.

Kinuachdrach
Kinuachdrach

Please let's have more gross insensitivity, aka truth. And if some snowflakes can't handle the truth, let them suffer the consequences.

President Trump said nothing about the competence of the response to the fires. He focused "like a laser" (as Billie Clinton used to say) on the conditions which created the need for a response.

Forest specialists have been talking for years about mis-management of forests -- mismanagement mainly driven by idiot urban "environmentalists" who know not of what they speak. The deaths & destruction in these fires can be laid directly at the door of foolish "environmentalists". Maybe once the snowflakes have finished melting, we can finally get serious about how to manage forests, especially in the wildland/urban interface.

JanNL
JanNL

Indeed "grossly insensitive", this is the best time to say it.

pi314
pi314

We had massive forest fires in the Northwest last 2 summers. Given the number of environmentalists in the area, we now have nature doing forest management for us. The once beautiful summer with clean air has become polluted and dreadful for everyone. And I am supposed to care about the sensitivity of tree huggers and environmentalists?!

wootendw
wootendw

Trump tweeted several times about the fires and not insensitively on all occasions, including these two:

"More than 4,000 are fighting the Camp and Woolsey Fires in California that have burned over 170,000 acres. Our hearts are with those fighting the fires, the 52,000 who have evacuated, and the families of the 11 who have died. The destruction is catastrophic. God Bless them all." - Trump

"These California fires are expanding very, very quickly (in some cases 80-100 acres a minute). If people don’t evacuate quickly, they risk being overtaken by the fire. Please listen to evacuation orders from State and local officials!"

Comment #1, about cutting partition lines in forests, has been actively opposed by environmentalists, even to stop an ongoing brush fire via court action.

It is not presidential to say or tweet such things as Trump did, but no one else seems to be saying them, or at least no one important enough to get press coverage.

Top-GUN
Top-GUN

Not to worry,,,, 5000 illegal aliens are on their way to help with rebuilding... Trump isn't insensitive,,, He's telling it like it is... Insensitive is using my tax dollars to subsidize these people! !! Both the illegal alien immigrants and foolish folk that build in areas with high chances of fires not to mention earthquakes.. a Pox on all of them

douglascarey
douglascarey

Trump is 100% right. Don't be a pus#!y Mish.