CDC Admits Spread of Coronavirus in the US Appears Inevitable

Mish

The CDC admits they expect the US will get hit. The WHO is late to the game with another warning.

Spread in US Appears Inevitable

Please note Health Officials Warn that Spread of Coronavirus in U.S. Appears Inevitable.

“Ultimately we expect we will see community spread in the United States," Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters.

“It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses.”

Latest Developments

  • A Chinese health official warned that at least 28 days without new cases are needed to be able to say an area is free of the outbreak, raising questions about how long it will take for normal life to resume.
  • United Arab Emirates, one of the world’s most critical aviation hubs, saying it would suspend all travel to and from Iran, where authorities confirmed that the death toll has reached at least 15.
  • In Iran, an opposition lawmaker and the deputy health minister tested positive for the virus as the death toll there climbed.

"We Can't Stop This"

ZeroHedge reports Japan Rolls Out New 'Harm Reduction' Policy Aimed at Limiting Virus-Related Deaths.

"We shouldn’t have illusions," said Shigeru Omi, a senior government adviser. "We can’t stop this, but we can try to reduce the speed of expansion and reduce mortality."

Though the government didn't explicitly "ban" large events, it asked organizers to consider whether their event was really that necessary.

The new policy does little to clear up the uncertainty surrounding the Tokyo Olympics. But we suspect Japan will wait another month or two before it starts seriously considering what's next.

Lie of the Day: This is Not a Pandemic

Yesterday I commented Lie of the Day: This is Not a Pandemic

Prepare for Potential Pandemic

The CDC is behind the curve as well as changing its tune and definition routinely.

Yesterday, the WHO removed pandemic from the discussion, today they finally admit countries should prepare for one.

Today they finally admitted something useful: Prepare for a pandemic.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (52)
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett

Friday in Lowes got their last box of N95 masks (those are the ones the FBI ordered). Have stocked some of the regular masks, but the N95s MUCH better.

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Sechel
Sechel

Is the CDC or the DHS even up to the job. They've had their budgets slashed under this administration

njbr
njbr

The gentlest version of the regime we will be entering will be one where "social distancing" becomes more prevalent and over the next year or so random portions of the world economy will go off-line for a couple of months at a time to address the coronavirus in that region.

Or it could be worse.

Factor that into your plans.

Escierto
Escierto

Gold is getting monkey hammered today. Safe haven lol

silvermitt
silvermitt

There is few I know locally who are taking this seriously. I admonished my own kid for her CV jokes. We are all vunerable, but my own parents are highly susceptible to this, and I'm quite scared for them. Am I a avid prepper? No. But I AM taking it serious and looking to quietly add to our own supplies of home meds and preventative actions.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Still going to be like SARS or MERS imo. People who already have compromised lung or breathing issues will get hit first. Have to wonder openly if this virus was released to create global chaos because of trade disruptions and other issues emanating from China.

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RayLopez
RayLopez

@Casual_Observer - OMG, this is too funny. Pardon me, but if I'm not mistaken you, Casual_Observer, were one of the most mild and skeptical commentators here about Covid-19? (along with Carl_R) Now, if I'm reading you correctly, you're saying it will be like SARS (10% death rate) and MERS (30% death rate) and neither SARS or MERS have ever had vaccines made for them (unlike Ebola, with a 80% death rate, which has a vaccine now)? I can't believe what I'm reading... if I remember your previous posts correctly, apologies if I got them wrong.

Carl_R
Carl_R

It's funny that you consider me "mild and skeptical". I suppose by comparison to some of the people I am, but to others around me in real life, I'm crazy and overblown my concern. The biggest place that I differ from people here is that I take the ugly picture painted by the numbers as they are presented, and see no need to imagine even worse things, as the numbers we are given are bad enough.

JimmyScot
JimmyScot

A couple of days ago, I said “what if there is NOT a hidden iceberg of mild cases”.

Now a WHO official is reassuring us that the epidemic size is not as vast as we think, because there is no iceberg of hidden cases.

Which means a lot more of us are going to die than we thought.

This is Spanish flu.

Anda
Anda

Carl might seem like a "convert" but I think he has methodically reached his point of view as information came through, and so he has a firm position because he has figured out a lot for himself.

We have a Cautious Observer and a Casual Observer I think, so it is confusing ?

RayLopez
RayLopez

@JimmyScot - FYI, according to some sober estimates, the Spanish Flu had a 2.5% fatality rate, about the same as COVID-19, not 10% as commonly supposed. Numerous cites, below is one (this cite also good for a 'best case' scenario where Covid-19 is not as bad as some suppose, worth keeping in mind when DJ-30 hits 10k or 20k index mark) :

The global disaster that was the 1917 “Spanish flu” pandemic killed 2.5% (though some estimates exceed 10%).

Anda
Anda

Apologies - please don't mind that we discussed you in your presence.

JimmyScot
JimmyScot

There is a theory that Spanish flu was so lethal because of the overuse of aspirin, which caused salicylate poisoning. They were giving out lethal doses of aspirin and upping it when the patient got worse. Many of the symptoms described where symptoms of salicylate poisoning not flu.

Carl_R
Carl_R

Lol, no offense taken. It's all good. I respect a lot of the contributors on here, whether I always agree with them or not. I do tend to read a lot of the base information myself, just as you do. I just try to take a calm and reasoned approach, but because I am skeptical of some of the more extreme scenarios doesn't mean i'm in the "The flu is worse" camp.

I definitely think that sooner or later we are going to have pockets of identified infection in the US, most likely in the next couple weeks.

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

@Anda: I am not the same person as "Casual_Observer," correct.

As far as I know, I have been consistent in my position with respect to SARS-CoV-2. I think it is potentially serious, but the majority of people will be okay. I am concerned for the health of older members of my family and the public. Because of the combination of just-in-time businesses that span many continents and high amounts of debt in the financial system, the supply chain disruptions could also be a major economic shock.

I would have more faith in the response of our government agencies in the US if they consistently communicated more detail about how they plan to act as this evolves rather than simply saying, "We got this. It is contained. It will all be okay." I especially do not like the trial balloons being floated that central banks will lower interest rates and directly QE the stock market if the economy stalls while the COVID-19 cases are in progress. I cannot see how easy money will fix supply constraints caused by a virus, and I think they risk a currency crises if they do that.

ksdude69
ksdude69

Ive had fedex here almost everyday for the past 2 weeks. I'm thinking walmarts sales are going to be good next quarter. Also, doesn't the US send HUGE amounts of money to WHO? I say we stop sending them anything they clearly aren't needed.

alpha-protagonist
alpha-protagonist

Q: How do you know they're lying?

A: Their lips are moving.

RayLopez
RayLopez

Give me a heart if you like this music video:

LMFAO ft. Lauren Bennett, GoonRock - Party Rock Anthem (zombie apocalypse day after theme)

As for me, I'm not a prepper but in a self-sufficient village in the Greek mountains at the moment, with absolutely all the meat and vegetables we need, population about 30, mostly all related, free flowing water, shotguns, and a single road leading to and from said village. I can't even imagine a better place for a prepper (if I was one).

But the bad news: I'm due to return to Manila, PH, where 30m people live in a 20 mile radius, in about a month... :( LOL

Wmjack50
Wmjack50

Info:Nancy is the sister of Rod Rosenstein What ya know

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

The worst thing is the CDC with all its "experts" have not even suggested the US borders be closed immediately to PREVENT the virus' spread. Instead, the CDC says to PREPARE for it, resulting in unnecessary human suffering.


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