Dear Mr. President: Your Actions are So Despicable 15 Republican Senators Object

Trump's policy of using innocent children to get his way has drawn ire from at least 15 Republican senators.

Please consider this video:

Dear Mr. President

Instead of blaming the Democrats, why don't you just issue an executive order? Executive orders don't seem to be foreign to you.

Dear Mr. President, you and I both know the answer.

As part of your "art of the deal" tactics, you really do not care how many kids' lives you destroy.

Dear Mr. President, your actions are so despicable that at least 15 Republican Senators are willing to call you on it.

Senators Object

The Hill reports 13 GOP senators ask administration to pause separation of immigrant families.

GOP senators, led by Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah), sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions asking for a moratorium of the president's controversial "zero tolerance" policy, which is resulting in the separation of families detained at the border.

"We support the administration’s efforts to enforce our immigration laws, but we cannot support implementation of a policy that results in the categorical forced separation of minor children from their parents," the Republican senators wrote.

In addition to Hatch, GOP Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Pat Roberts (Kan.), Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), John Boozman (Ark.), Dean Heller (Nev.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), James Lankford (Okla.), Bill Cassidy (La.) and Rob Portman (Ohio) signed on to the letter to Sessions.

The senators added in their letter Tuesday that they've "read with increasing alarm" media reports of immigrant children being separated from their parents.

Ted Cruz

The Texas Tribune reports Ted Cruz introduces legislation to keep immigrant families together after they cross the border.

That's 14.

Rand Paul

KFVS News reports Both parties move to stop Trump Administration from separating migrant families.

Republican Sen. Rand Paul released a statement that read, “I strongly support enforcing our immigration laws, securing our border, and protecting our country. At the same time, I oppose the government separating families.”

That's 15.

There may be more that I do not know about. The rest are fools or cowards afraid to speak out.

Cowardly Response

This was the cowardly response from Homeland Security: Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said Monday it was up to Congress to pass legislature to end the policy of separating children from their parents as part of the country's overall immigration procedure.

Excuse me for asking again.

Dear Mr. President

Instead of blaming the Democrats, why don't you just issue an executive order? Executive orders don't seem to be foreign to you.

By the way, 13 Republican Senators believe you can do this by yourself. Not only do they believe this can be fixed by executive order, they are explicitly asking you to do just that!

Let the Taunts Begin

In response to my last post on this subject, I received the expected jackass responses. One person asked me to take in refugees.

Clearly that person cannot read because I never said, "Let them in." Rather, I said, "Don't separate families."

Another commented on abortion and my crocodile tears. I replied the subjects are not the same and I do not accept his definition of personhood.

A third person commented on the "rule of law," and I politely pointed out that slavery was once the rule of law.

So keep the inane comments coming. I will reply to them as time fits.

But before making inane comments I advise re-reading Trump's Immoral Immigration Tactics: What's the Libertarian View?

Oh Well

I expect this:

That's always the risk. And it has happened to me numerous times.

Like Hussman, I prefer to state my views and let the consequences be damned.

I do not play politics. I state my views.

Addendum

As expected, this did not take long:

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (71)
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Brian1
Brian1

Should citizens who commit crimes be spared prison sentences if they have children or should their children go to jail with them? I'm just looking for the logic in your position on the immorality of separating families.

pi314
pi314

I don't have all the facts and I doubt most people do either. I just read that 1/3 or the separations were as short as a couple hours... And I believe many of these illegal crossings are being organized and financed by groups in the US.

Tengen
Tengen

All this bluster but seems everyone wants to ignore the main reason the border has been so porous for decades: cheap labor. A great many Americans have had no qualms employing illegals for everything from factory work, to farm work, to day gigs for all these years.

If there was no money to be made from these people, there wouldn't be an issue in the first place. Blue team likes to keep the border open for social reasons and red team likes to keep it open (but is loath to admit it!) for business reasons. Noise on immigration has long been a joke. But hey, it makes for a good news cycle and it means we can ignore stuff like central banking.

SweetKenny
SweetKenny

I don’t understand this moral outrage when the people coming into the country are doing so ILLEGALLY when legal options are available. These are families being caught trying to sneak in - so now to get away with a crime the trick is to just bring your kids?Are the parents not at fault for involving their kids in illegal actions? That alone should absolve them of their parental rights. If I get caught drinking and driving or robbing a bank and I brought my kids - should people be outraged that they are separated from me during the process of arresting me?

TheMole
TheMole

Sorry Mish but I have to agree with Brian1, where is the outcry about citizens children taken from them? Especially when no crime was committed? Please read this article from The Atlantic, specifically the part under "What's Missing?"... www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/374809/

pi314
pi314

Again, going back to WMD in Iraq and the (initial) overwhelming support of migrants in EU based on some photos. We know how they turned out. 100% of these 'asylum' seekers would not consider Mexico. They are economic refugees with total disrespect of our sovereignty.

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic

Stick to your moral compass Mish it is pointing in the right direction. Hurting children is universally wrong. Systematically hurting children is even worse, it is a humanitarian crime. And for the false equivalency crowd (you know them, the "43 and 44 did it so you are all hypocrite" lies) I have only one thing to say: Solve the burning problem right now, then spend time apportioning blame.

Jojo
Jojo

Trump doesn't understand that for many in our society, children, kittens and puppy dogs are a political 3rd rail that you don't want to touch!

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic
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False Flag! Paid actors! Strategically planted explosives in the WTC! Apollo was shot on a Hollywood stage!

The conspiracy theorists are always spouting drivel - when did normal America start paying attention to them?

Smarten up America - we need to be the smart country, not the stupid country with a stupid President.

Brian1
Brian1

It is glaringly obvious that this issue and the sudden hysteria over it is a coordinated hit job by the media and the Left. This law has existed for over a decade and strongly enforced for at least half that, but we're to believe that Trump is responsible and EVERY news outlet just discovered it a week ago at exactly the same time? It's just a shame that Mish is falling for it too. The OIG report hearings have been hijacked by it just as the wheels fall off the Russian Collusion narrative and that Blue Wave in November is looking like a dud... But oh look! Trump is a NAZI AGAIN!!!

Mike Mish Shedlock
Mike Mish Shedlock

Editor

Forgive the harshness but ...Silly question. These are people applying for asylum. There is no reason to assume they are guilty of anything else. It is now so blatant that 15 Republican senators disagree. Let's not compare molesters with those applying for asylum.

Morrissey666
Morrissey666

These are just dirty low IQ Mayans, send them to isis.

Brian1
Brian1

Incorrect and you should know better. Families are not separated when they follow the process and apply for asylum legally. They are only separated when they enter the country illegally, get caught, and THEN claim asylum. Perhaps that was our disconnect yesterday. If you allow for that asylum excuse AFTER getting caught then they will all claim asylum, overwhelming the immigration courts. That is the law that was passed several years ago. The reason for that policy is that many of these people are involved with human trafficking those children and falsely claiming to be parents. You would have them reunited and then set loose as the system becomes overwhelmed.

This is nothing but another political trap being set for Trump. The only solution is to end the asylum loophole altogether and send the entire family back immediately. If Trump does that unilaterally by EO then he'll be crucified even harder.

You are allowing your emotions to overrule logic, something you have warned against countless times before.

Mike Mish Shedlock
Mike Mish Shedlock

Editor

There is no process because it was purposely shut down. Then idiots whine about not following the process. 15 Republican senators see this scam for what it is. And you can't. You are blind.

Tony_CA
Tony_CA

This crisis strikes me as manufactured. Our whole Asylum process is a mess. I doubt most voters are even paying attention.

Onni4me
Onni4me

Not that I really know what is happening in all this immigration business but the following sentence needs clearing up: "you really do not care how many kids lives you destroy". Destroy for good? Killing them? Placing them in some sort of a childcare? When talking about kids it is easy to get emotional. Parents are putting them in danger crossing the Mediterranean to Europe in shaky unseaworthy vehicles. Many drown. Main aim is to get to the social benefits and free life. In USA this immigration problem seems to drag on for decades if not longer and everybody suffer. What is not said often is that these immigrants do the dirty and dangerous jobs with very little pay and no security. The employers don't want to pay decent salaries since they can be exploited. That is the real issue here. This sad sidetrack is just a part of a bigger problem. Not that I am for Trump policies here but hard action might end the whole illegal entry to the USA. When people willing to enter realise what might happen the end for this illegal activity might come sooner than expected.

Kimo
Kimo

hhhmmm, I didn't notice a destroyed kid's life. Apparently Moms are OK with this. Maybe their lives were getting destroyed before they came? Are we just puppets of a hell bent media? Please, try to be sure.

killben
killben

Karl lays it out correctly as usual here... http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=233653 In fact I am also against Presidential pardons and the like (In India we pardon bandits and rapists and make them legislators too...). Then why have judicial process and convict the guy. You break the law you pay the price. Period. There is nothing else to it. Playing on emotions cannot change the cold fact that you broke the law. IMO, as it is the bad guys make law-abiding guys' life tough. To top it, you create drama and make out the guys who follow the law as the bad guys is really hard to stomach.

Sechel
Sechel

Stephen Miller the supposed architect of this policy seems to revel in acts of cruelty. He genuinely scares me.

Stuki
Stuki

First, make sure only criminals are "criminals." If Moses' Boss didn't consider it a crime, who the heck is some self promoting, tax feeding slimeball to do so? Then, make sure the parent is properly, by a full criminal process including jury of peers, found guilty.

Then, if one parent has to go to jail, the kid stays with the other. If both go to jail, ask mom and/or dad who (s)he wants kids to stay with for the duration. Then ask whether the designate accepts. Rinse and repeat until a match is found. Mom and dad both dead? Nearest relative who accepts the responsibility. Search VERY broadly. It ain't that hard in the age of genetic fingerprinting.

Parents have been dying in much greater numbers all throughout history and geography. Kids are taken care of. No tax feeders needed. Just as they aren't needed for anything else, either.

PodUK
PodUK

Yeah, it's so terrible when irresponsible parents break the law, are arrested and prosecuted and thus separated from their children, like the millions of American citizens that are in prison and thus separated from their (millions of) children. Of course, the children in question, those of people who recently crossed the border illegally, are only separated from their parents for a few hours or at most a couple of days, but it is still quite irresponsible of those parents. There are 2,000 such children. There are another 10,000 children, in the care of HHS, whose parents abandoned them and sent them on a death march across Mexico to the USA; what great parents. Wake up, Mish; you are smarter than this.

Roanman
Roanman

I believe we need to reinstate the policies of the Obama administration on this one.

KidHorn
KidHorn

The real issue is how Trump handled the situation. Instead of blaming the democrats, he should have stated the policy is the same as it was under the previous administration and he would work on changing the policy.

Sechel
Sechel

My take was Republican senators by a 2/1 margin were OK with this policy. 15 is a small number for such a reprehensible policy

Tezza
Tezza

They should change the law to immediate deportation of the entire family. The refugee provision is misused with lawyers coaching illegal aliens how to answer the questions correctly.

flubber
flubber

Immigrant parents taking advantage of laws passed decades ago that were never properly enforced by previous administrations. I'm sick and tired of hearing the phrase 'undocumented' immigrants instead of the correct term ' illegal'. Send all families back across the border and let them apply and wait for legal admission into the United States. This whole thing is a sob story to get the liberal agenda of amnesty voted into law. A total crock of sh-t. We didn't hear much squawking when this situation was going on during the Obama administration. Trump has decided to get tough when other administrations were too politically correct to offend any potential voter base. It's about time.

Sechel
Sechel

Uncontrolled borders has been an issue forever, but what makes this conversation so toxic is the discussion is code for "Make America White" by too many

aqualech
aqualech

I agree that they should not be separated. Any family that gets caught here illegally should be expelled post haste. No daycare freebies.

sequoia512
sequoia512

This is not new policy and nobody seemed to care when Obama did it now it's a problem. If he whips out his pen and cell phone for every problem we have a new emperor in town. Also he is doing nothing to break up families they are doing it to themselves by coming here. Try going to Europe or Mexico and getting a job and welfare. They will have you on a plane with a one way ticket so fast your head will spin.

AlexSpencer
AlexSpencer

Leave it to the government to come up with the least productive and most expensive policy to resolve an issue. Put the families on a nice bus with a package of residency application papers to fill out and send them home to wait for a call from nearest US embassy inviting them to come to USA. No change to law necessary just a budget for bus tickets. Has to be cheaper than kidnapping their children and placing them in foster care while locking up the parents. Of course the larger issue is why so many people think government kidnapping of children is acceptable policy.

RonJ
RonJ

What is despicable is that the democrats refuse to legislate a fix to the illegal immigration problem. Democrats proved that they don't really care about the children.

Zardoz
Zardoz

Mish, this time you’ve really triggered the Trumplings by disparaging their object of worship. Aside from the usual trumple tantrums, I wonder how many outright threats you’re gonna get?

RonJ
RonJ

"Mish, this time you’ve really triggered the Trumplings by disparaging their object of worship."

Obviously, you have been triggered, calling Trump supporters names.

AlexSpencer
AlexSpencer

It is important to understand the real issue. Children are being tortured to push forward resolution of a political issue. It may be effective but it is still the wrong thing to do. Like so many things is shows how far our values have deteriorated. I can think of many alternative policies to forward resolution of this issue that don't involve child torture.

Onni4me
Onni4me

In case the child entering the soil of USA is not the child of the person he/she enters with I see problems...

TheMole
TheMole

Ok I didn't want to post this entire snip from The Atlantic reference above but I think it is necessary:

"Professor Paul Chill of the University of Connecticut School of Law explained the stakes in a 2004 scholarly article: On an average day, police officers and child-welfare caseworkers throughout the UnitedStates remove more than seven hundred children from the custody of their parents to protect them from alleged abuse or neglect. These children are typically seized without warning from their homes or schools, subjected to intrusive interrogations, medical examinations and/or strip searches, and forced to live in foster homes or group residences while the legal system sorts out their future...

Removals can be terrifying experiences for children and families. Often they occur at night. Parents have little or no time to prepare children for separation. The officials conducting the removal, as well as the adults supervising the placement, are usually complete strangers to the child. Children are thrust into alien environs, separated from parents, siblings and all else familiar, with little if any idea of why they have been taken there. Such experiences may not only cause “grief, terror and feelings of abandonment” but may “compromise” a child’s very “capacity to form secure attachments” and lead to other serious problems. The trauma may be magnified when the child is actually suffering abuse or neglect in the home, and in any event it is increased when reunification with loved ones does not occur quickly. He goes on to explain that while taking kids from parents in this fashion is only permitted in emergencies as a matter of law, the way things play out in practice is very different. "According to statistics published by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, more than 100,000 children who were removed in 2001–more than one in three–were later found not to have been maltreated at all," "

TheMole
TheMole
TheMole
TheMole said: Ok I didn't want to post this entire snip from The Atlantic reference above but I think it is necessary: "Professor Paul Chill of the University of Connecticut School of Law explained the stakes in a 2004 scholarly article: On an average day, police officers and child-welfare caseworkers throughout the UnitedStates remove more than seven hundred children from the custody of their parents to protect them from alleged abuse or neglect. These children are typically seized without warning from their homes or schools, subjected to intrusive interrogations, medical examinations and/or strip searches, and forced to live in foster homes or group residences while the legal system sorts out their future... Removals can be terrifying experiences for children and families. Often they occur at night. Parents have little or no time to prepare children for separation. The officials conducting the removal, as well as the adults supervising the placement, are usually complete strangers to the child. Children are thrust into alien environs, separated from parents, siblings and all else familiar, with little if any idea of why they have been taken there. Such experiences may not only cause “grief, terror and feelings of abandonment” but may “compromise” a child’s very “capacity to form secure attachments” and lead to other serious problems. The trauma may be magnified when the child is actually suffering abuse or neglect in the home, and in any event it is increased when reunification with loved ones does not occur quickly. He goes on to explain that while taking kids from parents in this fashion is only permitted in emergencies as a matter of law, the way things play out in practice is very different. "According to statistics published by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, more than 100,000 children who were removed in 2001–more than one in three–were later found not to have been maltreated at all," "

So where oh where is the moral outrage at 100,000 CITIZEN CHILDREN being held from their parents for nothing more than an ALLEGATION of wrong doing?

This immigrant story is manufactured outrage just to get Trump....

AlexSpencer
AlexSpencer
TheMole
TheMole said: Ok I didn't want to post this entire snip from The Atlantic reference above but I think it is necessary: "Professor Paul Chill of the University of Connecticut School of Law explained the stakes in a 2004 scholarly article: On an average day, police officers and child-welfare caseworkers throughout the UnitedStates remove more than seven hundred children from the custody of their parents to protect them from alleged abuse or neglect. These children are typically seized without warning from their homes or schools, subjected to intrusive interrogations, medical examinations and/or strip searches, and forced to live in foster homes or group residences while the legal system sorts out their future... Removals can be terrifying experiences for children and families. Often they occur at night. Parents have little or no time to prepare children for separation. The officials conducting the removal, as well as the adults supervising the placement, are usually complete strangers to the child. Children are thrust into alien environs, separated from parents, siblings and all else familiar, with little if any idea of why they have been taken there. Such experiences may not only cause “grief, terror and feelings of abandonment” but may “compromise” a child’s very “capacity to form secure attachments” and lead to other serious problems. The trauma may be magnified when the child is actually suffering abuse or neglect in the home, and in any event it is increased when reunification with loved ones does not occur quickly. He goes on to explain that while taking kids from parents in this fashion is only permitted in emergencies as a matter of law, the way things play out in practice is very different. "According to statistics published by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, more than 100,000 children who were removed in 2001–more than one in three–were later found not to have been maltreated at all," "

Exactly- the foster care system does not do a very good job as it is currently. It is the only thing we have now though for dealing with neglect and abuse cases. Why would we voluntarily add to that system yet another population of children kidnapped from their parents. I would expect equivalent poor results from processing these children through the foster care system. In the case of toddlers and infants especially I would expect many to lose their family and childhood permanently - This is the wrong thing to do.

shamrock
shamrock

It's hard to believe that some group isn't suing to stop this policy. The courts would probably put an end to it.

Kinuachdrach
Kinuachdrach

Let’s see – 15 nominally Republican Senators took time out from addressing the unsustainable deficit they have created to lambast President Trump for enforcing laws that they themselves passed. Is there any surprise that President Trump has about ten times higher support from US Citizens than Congress?

This whole media storm was so obviously created by the Deep State/Lame Stream Media to distract from the revelations in the OIG report. The surprise is that Mish was fooled by this transparent attempt to change the subject. Not one of Mish’s finest hours.

douglascarey
douglascarey

So Mish, if the kids are not separated, where do they go? Are you advocating letting the entire family into the U.S. to roam free just like before?

JonSellers
JonSellers

Thank you for taking the principled stand Mish. Our federal laws do not allow children to be placed with parents when parents have been detained for legal reasons. This law is of course intended for American citizens who have broken federal laws where you have other parents or relatives to place the child. Using it in the manner the current administration is using it is deplorable. The law has been on the books forever (you don't want kids hanging out in prisons) and Mr. Trump has decided to enforce it in an especially egregious manner. Congress can change the law. Trump could apply different enforcement procedures for parents with children, as did prior administrations.

But you're not going to change any minds here. There has always been a dark under-belly to the American population. Maybe all societies have one. I don't know. And as a Libertarian writer, you're going to attract a conservative crowd that isn't really libertarian, but isn't sure of the difference. So you are going to get a lot of ugly, poorly informed responses.

As a communitarian conservative (anti-big gov and anti-big business) I'll save my ugly, poorly informed responses for your libertarian economic posts! Have a great day and keep up the good work.

Ambrose_Bierce
Ambrose_Bierce

Interesting, 43 had an immigration agreement with Congressional Democrats but House Republicans shot it down. I understand why they hate hispanics, they come here illegally and vote illegally for left leaning, Marxist candidates (their thoughts not mine) I know how it works, I live in ca49. The real situation is more nuanced but this simple approach defies gravity. Immigration was already slowing due to better economic conditions in Mexico (say goodbye Nafta and hello to more immigrants) and 45s billion dollar wall is nothing compared to 43s TRILLION dollar wall. (They always choose San Diego to kick this off) Now the real immigration problem is not Mexico but violence in Central America, which is deeply rooted in US foreign policy, and spawned MS13. When these people show up at our border it means foreign policy is not working, which applies exponentially to Europe where a disparate union manages a much larger and more potentially violent problem with a lot more humanity and understanding. Greenspan once said we have to liberalize immigration to find workers for the new American manufacturing jobs, and he meant legal immigration.A lot of otherwise legal Americans still carry green cards, the system is a travesty. The real immigration problem is the opposite of what you think, millions of Americans would like to move to Mexico, with about 1/3 the US population and fewer regulations and taxes you can live a free life down there, (free from the IRS, free from Trump, free at last) however Mexico has its owns obstacles to immigration, and so we need an agreement which takes both sides into account.

Ambrose_Bierce
Ambrose_Bierce

we all know "The Law is an Ass", and in this case, so is the Executive branch

shamrock
shamrock

I know the children can not be charged with a crime(stupid law!). But since they were used in the commission of a crime why not use civil asset forfeiture to seize them?

Liberaldisdain
Liberaldisdain

Yawn.......let's move on to the next feigned outrage, shall we?

RonJ
RonJ

"It is important to understand the real issue. Children are being tortured to push forward resolution of a political issue."

I saw a photo of children at one of the centers. A classroom setting. None of the children looked as if they were either traumatized or tortured.