Diesel Protests in France Turn Violent

Mike Mish Shedlock

Emmanuel Macron blames Marine Le Pen for French protests that turned violent. She wasn't there.

People from across France came to Paris to let the president know how they feel about the taxes in general and the tax on diesel.

​Police Use Tear Gas as Thousands in Paris Defy Protest Ban

The WSJ reports Police Use Tear Gas as Thousands in Paris Defy Protest Ban.

Violence erupted Saturday between police and several thousand demonstrators who defied a protest ban and marched down the famous Parisian avenue Champs Elysées, as the country’s interior minister blamed the far-right for the unrest in the French capital.

On the Champs Elysées, some protesters sang the national anthem and waved French flags, while others carried signs urging the president to resign. Some threw stones at police, who responded by firing tear gas and water cannons. At least 130 people were detained across the nation on Saturday, including 42 in Paris, Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said.

Mr. Castaner blamed Marine Le Pen, head of the far-right party National Rally, for urging protesters to head to the Champs Elysées despite an official ban on demonstrations on the avenue.

“What justifies the fact that French people can’t protest on the Champs Elysées when many other gatherings (World Cup, New Year’s Eve…) happened there?” Ms. Le Pen tweeted on Friday. Ms. Le Pen didn’t attend the protests.

Can't Afford to Eat

‘People are in the red. They can’t afford to eat’

Idir Ghanes, 42, Unemployed computer technician from Paris: We are here to protest against the government because of the rise in taxes [in general], not just petrol taxes, which is the straw that broke the camel’s back. We’ve had enough. We have low salaries and pay too much tax and the combination is creating more and more poverty.

Thousands Protest in Paris

In the Champs-Elysees area, Angry Protesters Start Fires and Roadblocks.

French police fired tear gas and water cannons to disperse violent demonstrators in Paris on Saturday, as thousands gathered in the capital and beyond and staged road blockades to vent anger against rising fuel taxes.

Thousands of police were deployed nationwide to contain the eighth day of deadly demonstrations that started as protests against tax but morphed into a rebuke of President Emmanuel Macron and the perceived elitism of France’s ruling class. Two people have been killed since Nov. 17 in protest-related tragedies.

Police said that dozens of protesters were detained for “throwing projectiles,” among other acts. By nightfall the Champs-Elysees was smoldering and in the Place de la Madeleine, burned scooters lay on the sidewalk like blackened shells.

It’s going to trigger a civil war and me, like most other citizens, we’re all ready,” said Benjamin Vrignaud, a 21-year-old protester from Chartres.

They take everything from us. They steal everything from us,” said 21-year-old Laura Cordonnier.

What Socialists Do

Take everything for the alleged good of everyone.

Many if not most of those protesting are socialists who need to look into the mirror to see whom to blame.

Diesel Revolt Flashback

Six days ago I commented Anti-Carbon Revolt: Massive Road Blocks Against Macron's Diesel Tax

In stunning irony, the French protest against Macron's diesel tax, while Macron insists the UK abide by climate accord.

The protests have now turned violent.

Reader Comment of the Day

"Funny, the unemployed guy, who lives off other peoples taxes, is bitching about taxes."

Precisely!

  • The socialists want green energy but they don't want the taxes to pay for it.
  • They want free shelter for the homeless but they don't want to pay for it.
  • They want free food, free education, free healthcare, free this, and free that. But they don't want the taxes to pay for it.
  • They want more jobs, but they want more taxes on businesses that create the jobs.
  • They vote for socialists guaranteed to raise their taxes, then they bitch about not being able to afford anything.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (62)
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caradoc-again
caradoc-again

Tax raised to help encourage private equity out of London as taxes on them are aimed to be reduced to encourage moves. They need to make up the difference.

Macron is favouring capital over labour at just the WRONG TIME. When people understand fully its not all about climate there will be a backlash.

Even if he succeeds, at what price?

He's a banker boy, never had a proper job and out of touch. He forgets the less well off have votes too. "Let them drive Ev's."

shamrock
shamrock

Funny, the unemployed guy, who lives off other peoples taxes, is bitching about taxes.

Mike Mish Shedlock
Mike Mish Shedlock

Editor

Excellent comment by Shamrock. I added an addendum.

RonJ
RonJ

I think Thomas Piketty needs to do a rewrite.

Ted R
Ted R

Good for the protesters. I love a spirited protest. The hell with the socialists.

RonJ
RonJ

Does that protester fire on the Champs Elysées, violate the Paris Climate Accord?

Cecil1
Cecil1

Socialism: because you would resent being robbed by your neighbour but more than happy to get the government to do it for you without a twinge of conscience.

'Cash strapped' = gimme someone else's money NOW!!

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

Scapegoating is one of the oldest plays in the political playbook.

As for the unemployed computer technician, we do not know if he is living off other people’s taxes or living off his own savings. It is quite an assumption that “unemployed” automatically means “receiving taxpayer aid.”

Meanwhile, here in the US we just had midterm elections. In my state and local elections Democrats nearly ran the table. Every government bond question passed; most by 2:1. This happened despite recent examples of extremely wasteful government projects in the news and despite local tax rates moving higher at a concerning rate. I voted against all spending because, as a percentage, I think state and local governments receive enough money and they are very wasteful. My voice is lost in the wind. When I think about it, it occurs to me that two-thirds of my neighbors are on the government payroll in one way or another (they either get paid directly by a government agency or by a private company that is a government contractor). In that context, is it surprising two-thirds of local voters support government getting a pay raise? Hard for me to see how this unsustainable trend gets turned around.

If France and the EU get bad enough soon enough, maybe one good thing to come from it will be more people here in the US will think more carefully about how that unfortunate situation happened. One can hope.

Realist
Realist

There are so many ironies in life. Taxes are one of them. Very few people “want” to pay taxes, though they expect the government services that the taxes provide. And they certainly get upset if their taxes are raised. What is happening in France is just another example of this irony.

I see this played out in the many comments about taxes on this site. Some people are all for lower taxes on themselves, but believe that corporations and “the rich” should pay more. Others say that all taxes should be lowered, but then applaud Trump’s tariffs, which are just another tax. Ironic.

pi314
pi314

Global warming is in the news all the time. What about low sunspot activity that will bring global cooling in the decades to come? The cooling trend is barely reported by the MSM and largely ignored by politicians.

2banana
2banana

You can't have open borders and a welfare state.

At what point between 0% and 100% taxation do you become a slave?

Socialists don't want socialism to help people and to improve society. Socialists want socialism for power.

The more socialism, the more power.

Kinuachdrach
Kinuachdrach

This must be fake news! All the Europhiliacs in the US Political Class keep on telling us peons how we should be more like Europe. The Europhiliacs spend all their (our tax?) money buying French wine and German cars and taking vacations in Italy. The only problem there is getting a good night's sleep in France, what with all the happy people out in the streets singing about how they want to buy the world a Coke.

Blurtman
Blurtman

Nanny state revolt!

silvermitt
silvermitt

It didn't end well for the elites the last time the French people had had enough. This time will be a bit different due to the influx immigration of uneducated and unskilled people. Could be worse.

superDuper
superDuper

Raise taxes = mushroom cloud

Cut spending = mushroom cloud

Proof positive that failure is an option.

thimk
thimk

where does all the money come from to support the socialistic ideology? thin air ? oh i forgot .

Runner Dan
Runner Dan

“’They take everything from us. They steal everything from us,’ said 21-year-old Laura Cordonnier…”

“…of Venezuela”

Nope!

“…of California”

Wrong again!

“…of France.”

Got it!

Sechel
Sechel

There will always be those upset by economic disruption but the majority of French are behind clearner air policies. Don't make this sound like something it is not. The majority like the direction

Sechel
Sechel

That fire sure wasn't green

APRnow
APRnow

the Iroquois chieftains said it all when they discussed France w/the American founding fathers in Paris in the mid 1700's.

glennjones
glennjones

Do not be fooled, Socialism is alive and well for the top 0.1%, the worlds banks were bailed out in 2008 remember, Socialism for the elite and Capitalism for the rest.


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