DNA Testing: We're All American Indians, Trump Proposes Personal Test of Warren

Elizabeth Warren had DNA testing that allegedly "proves" Native American heritage. Trump proposes testing her personally

President Trump once mocked Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas" for her claim that she is a descendant of Native Americans.

To support her claim, Warren underwent DNA testing.

The New York Times did not bother to report the percentage. It's a joke. Nonetheless, Warren is proclaiming victory as did the Boston Globe and others.

​Even the left-wing Vox managed to get the story mostly correct.

In a way, the reveal is trivial: All it shows is that she had an ancestor, among hundreds in her family tree, from a Native American tribe. Her DNA, as analyzed by Stanford genealogy expert Carlos Bustamante, reveals her to be between 1/1024th Native American and 1/32nd Native American.

If your sibling inherits slightly more Scandinavian DNA than you, does that make them more Scandinavian? No.

We are All Chimpanzees

We are All American Indians

After Math Corrections

Recall Warren's Claim

Pie Chart of Warren's Native American Heritage

Mish Native American Heritage

Warren is no more native American than I am. Heck, I may be more.

My grandparents are from the Czech Republic and Germany. Perhaps I am 1% Native American.

Trump Video

Trump's response today: “I’ll only donate the $1 million if I can test Warren personally. That will not be something I enjoy doing either.

Here's the amusing or pathetic (depending on your point of view) video.

Click on link for video.

Cherokee Nation Chimes In

The test, conducted by a Stanford University Professor Carlos Bustamante, showed that Warren has a Native American ancestor going back six to 10 generations ago, making her somewhere between 1/32ndand 1/1024thAmerican Indian.

The Cherokee Nation in a statement said using a DNA test to claim connection with a tribal nation is “inappropriate” and “wrong.”

“Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong,” said Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. “It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven.”

“She comes from a well-documented line of white people and so there is ample evidence that all of her ancestors are documented white people on the census rolls, by their marriage and birth and death certificates since going back before the Trail of Tears,” she added, referring to the forced migration of Native Americans to west of the Mississippi in the 1830s.

This Explains Everything

Boston Globe Makes Math Correction

Damn, Another Correction

The Onion - Zero % Presidential Material

Democrats Fall Into Stupid Trap Again

Once again, Democrats just cannot help themselves.

They keep falling into the "stupid trap", countering anything Trump says that is silly, with absurd silliness of their own.

This is absolutely stupid and just 22 days in front of midterm elections.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

No. 1-22

Trump comes off as an ass by calling Warren Pocahontas. Warren came off as politically stupid by even coming out with her DNA test. Trump won't be satisfied and he'll now escalate the attacks. What Warren did was telegraph to Trump her vulnerability on this issue. She may have thought she was putting this issue to rest but she did the opposite. A claim of 1% or what ever the number is is so small to be insignificant.


So Warren has LESS american indian ancestry than the average white american...

EPIC fail by Warren.

Maybe Trump should donate 1/1024th of 1 Million dollars to the charity Warren named as the recipient of the 1 million donation Trump promised if Warren proved she was American-Indian?

That would be a donation slightly under 1000 dollars...


This is what politics in America has devolved into. Hell, my great grandmother was Cheyenne but I have never checked a box on any form that says I am Native. I could also say I am French, German, Irish or Italian. Luckily, I can say I am an American with a straight face because I am otherwise just a mongrel of the world.


I'm not the world's most likely Warren voter, but, guys, let's get a grip here.

Her story (which seems a lot more likely to be true than, say, Ford's Kav story) is that her Mother was thought to be part "Indian". She grew up with that and had no reason to doubt it. So, she checked a box. Whoop-dee-doo. In the US you can pick your "race" by checking any box you like. It should not matter what box you check, but it does. Too bad. Cry me a river.

Then DNA testing comes along and, as of right now, says she has only a trace of Amerindian. Pretty much like most Americans. Nothing special.

But here's the deal: These DNA ancestry findings are wild guesses. She could be 10% Amerindian, no problem. Or more. Why? Short story: lack of data.

I can say from personal experience that these ancestry guesses can be off by 30% or 40% for ancestries for which they have far, far more data points that what are currently known for Amerindian.

Heck, until recently, these DNA testing outfits often bundled NE Asians with Amerindians in to one group! Talk about a vague grouping. The join between those two groups goes back from before (for instance) Euro ancestry even existed!

Mike Mish Shedlock
Mike Mish Shedlock


I am going to have my DNA tested. I suspect I am more Native American than she is.