Donald Trump Then vs Now on Saudi Arabia

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Let's compare what Donald Trump said in 2014 vs what he is saying today regarding Saudi Arabia.

Donald Trump the Candidate

Donald Trump the President

Today, Trump is Locked and Loaded (and Waiting for Saudi Arabia to Tell Us What to Do).

Politico comments Trump's Deference to Saudi Arabia Infuriates Much of D.C.

“Trump awaits instructions from his Saudi masters. Having our country act as Saudi Arabia's bitch is not ‘America First,’” Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is running for the Democratic nomination for president, tweeted on Sunday night.

Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, a Republican-turned-independent, noted that Congress is the body empowered to “commence war.” “We don’t take orders from foreign powers," he tweeted.

"Direct engagement by U.S. military in response to Iran’s attacks on Saudi oil infrastructure would be a grave mistake," Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) tweeted on Monday. "The U.S. has continued arms sales so Saudi Arabia can defend itself. If S.A. responds against Iran attacks, the U.S. should be ready to support in a non-kinetic role."

Asked if he had pledged to protect the Saudis, Trump said: "No, I haven’t promised the Saudis that ... We have to sit down with the Saudis and work something out." Such equivocation is unlikely to deflate the controversy around Riyadh’s role in U.S. policy.

This makes perfect sense in some alternate universe somewhere.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (44)
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Cbb
Cbb

Lets hear what the Trump supporters will say, there are so many here.

Tengen
Tengen

Tulsi's comments were great. Apparently the Saudis won over Trump with a combination of sword dancing and glowing orbs. Also telling that the kingdom was Trump's first state visit.

We shouldn't be promoting Saudi Wahhabism at all, let alone being this cozy with them. I still wish Trump hadn't stepped in to help MbS when Erdogan openly challenged the House of Saud. They're the weakest people in the region and wouldn't last a week without extensive US support.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Wasnt it just s few days ago Bolton was a warmonger and Trump was a genius for firing him ?

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Negotiating Costanza style. Trump clearly took lessons.

Je'Ri
Je'Ri

Clearly that mystical orb got to Mr. Trump. It would be fun to have President Gabbard for a few days.

Sechel
Sechel

There is no Trump doctrine. He says what feels right at the moment. That said Saudi Arabia has driven U.S. policy for decades. You saw what we did for Kuwait. Saudi Arabia is viewed as far more critical. And now that Egypt's role in the mid east has declined we look to Saudi Arabia as the key nation in the middle east for dialogue as well.

mudpuppet
mudpuppet

Ha I guess the last articles comments didn't sit to well with you Mish. Don't worry I don't think this most recent missive makes you look too much like a little kid having a meltdown. How are those immigration numbers looking down on the old southern boarder?

Sechel
Sechel

Trump has built his Presidency on pulling troops out of the region. He's alienated our allies on Iran and already telegraphed he's not interested in a direct confrontation and has arguably stated he's open to Iranian talks. Trump even bragged about cancelling an attack on Iran because he feared Iranian casualties. Add to this 2020 elections coming up and a country that is more and more isolationist and not in favor of new conflicts. Iran smells weakness and is taking advantage.

Webej
Webej

How unusual, Trump is all over the map on this one, contradicting earlier utterances on the heels of making them.

lol
lol

That attack was just a trial run,send a couple hundred of those Chinese drones each armed with 100 lbs of c-4 at a carrier and stand back a watch the fireworks.

Matt3
Matt3

Sad follow up to your earlier poorly received post. So now Mitt Romney is who you look to for foreign policy? I'm not sure if you have changed because I didn't think you were a big fan to Rino Mitt. Move back to economics. At least then your posts have value maybe just as the normal chicken little doom and gloom.

Zardoz
Zardoz

You’ll have dozens of Trumplings sticking up for them though... having forgotten who flew those planes into the twin towers. A cult of stupidity and rage.

abend237-04
abend237-04

Anyone still wondering why America was surprised by Pearl Harbor should pay close attention to unfolding events. The issue in 1941 was Japanese empire builders and the oil to fuel it. Tojo and the boys sat in a room talking to each other long enough to convince themselves that we'd go away if they attacked, just like the Russians had after the battle of Tsushima, 36 years earlier.

Fast forward to today, 78 years later. The issue is still empire builders, Persian this time, and the oil to fuel it. With sanctions, we're sitting on their empire plans, just as Roosevelt was Japan's in 1941. Sigmund Freud held that serial killers were psychologically indistinguishable from religious fanatics. He was a pretty good shrink. Civilization is once again sitting on a powderkeg and power lust and ambition needing oil to fuel it is at the core of the crisis. We need another Manhattan project, this one to get us off oil. We're technologists, it's what we do best. Wind and solar won't get us there. Thorium will eventually, if we're not all dead fighting over oil before it happens. We need Trump to lead from the front and push the R&D on this now, not wait with a finger in the wind to see how we position in the latest oil war.

RonJ
RonJ

Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, a Republican-turned-independent, noted that Congress is the body empowered to “commence war.” “We don’t take orders from foreign powers," he tweeted.

The interesting thing is that congress hasn't declared a war since WW2, despite a number of U.S. wars since then.

Carlos_
Carlos_

Don't know who did what. I know, however, that just about ev

SleemoG
SleemoG

Wasn't George H. W. Bush Kuwait's bitch? Just seeing if I remember that correctly.

Country Bob
Country Bob

Its a fluid situation, the "known facts" are changing faster than the cable news heads can figure out which cabinet member to try to blame, and Mish is trying to read Trump's tweets like an African witch doctor reads entrails.

Its good comic relief to read Mish's blog at the end of the trading day