France Wants European Army to Protect Europe from US, China Russia

Trump blasted French French President Emmanuel Macron in a Tweet for Macron's "insulting" reasons for wanting an army.

Please consider France’s Macron Calls for Creating a ‘European Army’.

French President Emmanuel Macron called for the creation of a “true European army,” issuing a sharp critique of trans-Atlantic security ties days before U.S. President Trump is due to visit France.

Europe’s security ties with the U.S., which have been a bedrock of the continent’s stability for decades, have come under strain as Mr. Trump has demanded more military spending from European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and questioned the alliance’s benefits for the U.S. Such tensions have led Mr. Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel to publicly question whether the continent can still rely on the U.S. to come to Europe’s defense.

Mr. Macron went a step further by grouping the U.S. among foreign powers he considers a potential threat to the continent. “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” Mr. Macron said on French radio.

Europe is the  “main victim,” Mr. Macron said, of Mr. Trump’s decision to withdraw from the landmark 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. That accord prohibits the use of intermediate- and shorter-range rockets, as well as testing, producing or fielding new ground-based missiles.

“We will not protect the Europeans unless we decide to have a true European army,” Mr. Macron said.

Scary Talk

This is scary talk from Macron.

Europe cannot afford and does not need a "True European Army".

The US is not going to attack Europe, nor is China, nor is Russia.

If Europe had an army most likely it would use it stupidly, just like the US did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, etc.

As far as NATO goes, I would be quite happy to see it disbanded.

In regards to Germany specifically and the world in general, the US should pull out all of our troops. If Germany needs defending, let Germany pay for it. The same applies everywhere.

Support the troops. Bring them home and stop meddling where we shouldn't be in the first place.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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Couldn't agree more Mish. Macron is touting the EU, 5 Presidents report and to achieve it they need enemies created. They have a market, a flag, and now want armaments to use. They will use them. France would be a major beneficiary due to its large military supplier base.

The EU will be the most threatening of them all.

This talk will lead to future conflict, even the annihilation of entire countries. Nothing has been learnt by the likes of Macron that has never faced an armed conflict in uniform.

Sadly this is at the 100th anniversary of the Great War.


Macron is enabling Germany's quest for European conquest.


It is a rather silly talk from French President Macron.

Currently - European countries pay little for their own defense. For example, the Germans barely have 300 main battle tanks (MBT) for their entire army. The Pennsylvania National Guard has more MBTs. Even one WWII Panzer Division had more tanks.

Not one European country is going to increase their defense spending to create this European army. No one is going to join it if there is even a slim chance of combat with Russia, America or China (no Italian is going to willingly fight and die to defend Poland or Estonia).

The UK can't even find enough citizens to join and fill the ranks of their own minuscule army:

For NATO today - America supplies the majority of troops. But America supplies nearly ALL the logistical support and strategic airlift capabilities. France - with their recent "stabilizing" mission to Mali (from islamic insurgents), had to be flown there entirely on American Air Forces cargo planes.

So to summarize:

No funding to create this European Army. No funding to equip this European Army. No will to fight. No way to supply it. No way yo move it.


war , what is it good for, musical tribute to the past


"If Europe had an army most likely it would use it stupidly, just like the US did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, etc."

It will be used to antagonize Russia, leading to confrontation and conflict that goes nuclear in short order leading to the death of many millions.

Neither US nor China need intervene, both can carry on their merry was as others anihilate themselves.

BTW, who would control it and vote for it to go into action against Russia and how long will that take? Russia can decide and act quickly.