Greatest Shutdown Ever: Trump Says Shutdown Could Last Months, Even Years

Trump told Congress the shutdown could last years. He now considers declaring a national emergency to build the wall.

The Wall Street Journal reports Trump Considers Declaring National Emergency to Build Border Wall.

President Trump said he was considering declaring a national emergency to build a southern border wall if Congress doesn’t fund it, following a Friday meeting with congressional leaders that both Mr. Trump and Democratic lawmakers described as contentious.

Mr. Trump said he hoped the shutdown “doesn’t go on even beyond a few more days,” but also said he told congressional leaders that the shutdown could last for months or even years if Democrats don’t agree to fund the border wall.

Later in his remarks, the president floated the idea of bypassing Congress. “We can call a national emergency because of the security of our country,” he said, adding: “I may do it.” But he said he preferred to negotiate with lawmakers to obtain funding.

A spokesman for the House Appropriations Committee called the move “legally dubious” and said it would “invite a legal challenge from Congress.”

Wall Without Funding

Curiously, a wall without funding was the top vote-getter in my January 1 poll.

Rest assured this won't go years. At some point Congress would override a Trump veto.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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ReadyKilowatt
ReadyKilowatt

Meanwhile, the National Parks are still operating, albeit in a somewhat disorganized manner. Imagine, people acting on their own free will, without Uncle Sam's guiding hand. Oh sure, it's not perfection, but it has only been two weeks (with holidays and vacations). The Park Service has had 100 years to get organized. I'm fairly certain if this shutdown goes for more than a few months there will be crowd funding initiatives, state funding, local funding and probably just people pitching in to keep the parks nice. In fact I'd bet visitors, already accustomed to the "pack it out" mentality, will just take it on themselves to clean up and quite possibly even better than the paid Park Service employees.

Blacklisted
Blacklisted

"Rest assured this won't go years. At some point Congress would override a Trump veto."

Why? Trump's support amongst districts he carried has only gotten stronger. Republican's would be signing their death warrant if they voted to overthrow his veto.

Besides, why shouldn't some govt employees get a taste of reality? Private sector employees have no guaranttee, especially if doing non-essential work. If these people had to compete in the private sector, they would have been unemployed long ago. Being unemployed makes one figure out how to add value quickly.

Costs in the health care industry will contract by 40% one way or another in the coming decade. Who is going to feel sorry for all the pencil pushers that provide zero actual health care to patients when their "jobs" go bye bye?

As people continue to leave states that are circling the govt pension drain, govt employees will have to be cut. The same problem exist at the Federal level, so why is it unconscionable to cut Federal employees. If you have to borrow to pay your bills, you are destined to implode.

For those that think the govt should be funded before negotiating on the wall, I must ask - should we drop sanctions on countries like Iran, Russia, and S. Korea? It's called leverage. If we remove sanctions or completely fund govt, where is the motivation for leaders to change?

THE ECONOMIC DECLINE AROUND THE WORLD IS THE RESULT OF GOVT'S ENDLESSLY INCREASING TAXES, FEES, AND ASSET FORFEITURES TO PAY FOR UNSUSTAINABLE GOVT PENSIONS, PERKS, AND POWER.

If govt is not going to proactively reform and downsize to allow for economic expansion, then govt shut downs are the next best thing, provided back-pay is only severance. The sooner govt employees get acclimated to the real world, the better. Since govt has no intention of ever paying back the debt, which is impossible, the only solution is debt-equity swaps and the private sector running most of what govt inefficiently provides now. There's no better time than the present.

stillCJ
stillCJ

Editor

If the shutdown causes welfare programs and other free stuff for non-citizens to end, we won't need a wall.

AshH
AshH

Winning

wootendw
wootendw

"Rest assured this won't go years."

I'd rest better if were assured it would go years.