Greta to the World: Immediately and Completely Divest From Fossil Fuels

Mish

Greta Thunberg is at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, spewing more climate change nonsense.

House Still on Fire

Climate activist Greta is back on stage asking people to panic. Her message is ‘Our House Is Still on Fire

Here's some pertinent snips from Greta's List of Demands.

  1. One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire. I said I wanted you to panic. I’ve been warned that telling people to panic about the climate crisis is a very dangerous thing to do. But don’t worry. It’s fine. Trust me, I’ve done this before and I can assure you it doesn’t lead to anything.
  2. Let’s be clear. We don’t need a “low carbon economy.” We don’t need to “lower emissions.” Our emissions have to stop if we are to have a chance to stay below the 1.5-degree target. And, until we have the technologies that at scale can put our emissions to minus, then we must forget about net zero. We need real zero.
  3. We demand at this year’s World Economic Forum, participants from all companies, banks, institutions and governments: immediately and completely divest from fossil fuels.
  4. We don’t want these things done by 2050, 2030 or even 2021. We want this done now.
  5. Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour. And we are telling you to act as if you loved your children above all else.

Greta a Pawn in Someone Else's Game

Telling people to panic doesn't work for the simple reason there is nothing to panic over.

A huge percentage of the world's populations lives day to day struggling with food, medical, housing or debt-related issues. Their concern, and rightfully so, is surviving the next week.

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Fearmongering Lesson

None of the above tops AOC who says World Will End in 12 Years: Here's What to Do About It

Here's a lesson for you climate fearmongers: Never put a time frame on your prediction that is shorter than your expected life or you will be ridiculed until you die.

Greta Demands Action Now!

Even if you are still convinced man and not the sun is the overwhelming force in climate change, the idea that we can immediately divest from fossil fuels an have "real" zero" emissions is economic nonsense.

Such statements do not merit praise, they merit ridicule. And her parents deserve scorn for putting her on stage to be used in this way.

The media treats her like she is some sort of saint. Actually, she is nothing but a pawn in someone else's game on a fool's mission to achieve the impossible.

Ironically, Greta's message is so absurd that if we did what she asked, there would be panic and a global economic collapse.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (172)
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Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus

This site would do better if it avoided the idiot crowd's obsession with a teenage twit turned saint.

Latkes
Latkes

Greta is a marketing gimmick. She does not think for herself. She is the equivalent of a hologram popstar, like Hatsune Miku.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett

"she is nothing but a pawn in someone else's game on a fool's mission to achieve the impossible."

...

Pawn? Absolutely.

fool's mission? Not so fast.

The "fools" are looking at skimming $billions (likely $trillions) if there is a mad dash to go Green (renewables, carbon credits, etc).

bradw2k
bradw2k

What disgusts me is how lefty educators hold up whining, demanding "activists" as heroes to their students. Such activists do not appeal to your reason, they do not expect you to make up your own mind, quite the opposite they intend to shame you into me-too-ism. Being such an "activist" is not a productive use of a life and should not be emulated.

SMF
SMF

We had people over to our house a couple weeks ago. One guest informed me how his little cousin in Canada is freaked out over the world ending in 12 (11 now?) years.

We may have a little more understanding than adolescents, but wow, how can anyone justify kids freaking out is beyond me.

Webej
Webej

We should stall and delay, spend trillions on military gear to blow up humanity instead, deplete the rest of the finite supply of fossil fuels driving the biggest vehicle we can borrow, and if turns out scientists were right to warn us of the risks, we will all just go to Mars or Venus.

Jojo
Jojo

You climate deniers are on the wrong side of history. You should realize this by now. Like Trump and Don Quixote, you can keep titling at the windmills of climate change forever but it is not going to change anything. There are simply too many who DO buy into climate change an who WILL continue to keep it in the forefront of political and business discussions.

Realist
Realist

Realist Point of View

  1. Global Warming is indeed a man-made problem.

  2. Greta is well-intentioned and idealistic.

  3. However, very few governments and institutions will do anything significant to slow or stop global warming. They will instead let future generations absorb the pain.

  4. The consequences of global warming will continue to get worse over the coming decades.

  5. The economic and human cost of inaction will eventually become so great that solutions will be found. But we have not reached that point yet.

  6. I expect mankind to develop the means to partially control the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and partially control the average temperatures on earth sometime in the next century.

  7. Until then, we will just have to accept the consequences of our inaction.

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

Global Warming activists would gain more traction if their speeches focused on the energy sources the world should transition to rather than what we should transition away from (and nobody better say use "solar" and "wind" unless they also show how energy storage is going to be implemented and also what the costs and environmental consequences of that whole system is).

Making demands that everyone in the world must accept less individual freedom, a higher cost of living, and a lower quality of life is a tough sell.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man

Anybody care to take a guess at what the carbon footprint of the US military is?

crickets

JohnH
JohnH

Excellent Mish!

The "Global Warming Fraud Basics" chart is blurry when I click to enlarge - is there a better one available?

Sechel
Sechel

Making a 17 year old the world's bogeyman now? I thought I was watching FOX. There's an agenda here. She's not a political leader. She controls nothing.

rum_runner
rum_runner

Mish why don't you also share your opinions on prenatal care and home repair and other things you are UTTERLY UNQUALIFIED to opine on.

Tony Heller is a widely ridiculed clown. That he's your go-to guy says it all. I'll bet you haven't spent 5 hours educating yourself on the basics of climate change and climate science. Instead you continue to spread lies and disinformation based on your personal bias and gut feeling. It's pathetic.

I saved this quote of yours from a while back:

Mike Shedlock - "There is no "proof" of man-made global warming. There is data to support a THEORY, much of it fake, but some of it not. The time-frame analysis is clearly insufficient and there are thousands of factors. It is likely, we do not yet know the biggest cause of what's happening. Moreover, as LaCalle pointed out, the free market will take care of this problem anyway, assuming there is a problem"

Mish believes we don't even know what's causing climate change and don't worry, a planetary transition to a hothouse state is no big deal, the market will fix it.

Moronical to the extreme.

Realist
Realist

Hi Mish. One question. You used to say the that global warming was real but not man-made. Now it sounds like you are saying that there is no such thing as global warming and that it is all a fraud. Which is it?

Winn
Winn

Hi Mish,
You might be right.
Greta might be right.
We shouldn't fight who is right.
Actually we have only one world to live.
We can't afford to lose our world to man made disaster.
The world is for us and for our kids.
More trees.
Low carbon emission.
That's it.

Zardoz
Zardoz

No can do, Greta. Jesus is coming, and we're supposed to have the world on fire for him.

Scooot
Scooot

Even if there wasn’t any man made global warming it’d still be better to stop polluting the planet, and that’s what we should strive to do. We don’t like walking around our streets if they’re full of litter so why would we like our air and oceans littered in the same way.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again

We'll know if TPTB take it seriously when they cancel a jamboree like Davos to reduce C02 and massively tax private jets.

Until then it's do as we say, not as we do.

Start with a massive reduction in carbon fuel based global travel and let's see what happens. Lot less C02 if none of us have a job.

Greggg
Greggg

Let's sum this up with the verified geological data from the last 17,000 years: https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/clip_image0021.jpg

Winn
Winn

Hi Mish,
One question.
I really like to hear your answer.
Here is the scenario.
We have a patient with dying of cancer.
We have only one controversial expensive treatment. You might even think stupid treatment.
But we do know the treatment won't make the patient adverse effect.
Will you treat the world dying of cancer with that treatment?
At least you'll have some hope he might recover.
Or will you watch the world dying of cancer?
The patient is our priceless world.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab

Unfortunately, for the advocates of man-caused Global Warming/Climate Change, the vast majority of recent/current global climate variation is caused by solar activity--for example the number of solar flares/sun spots.
Solar cycle 25 began in 2019, and NASA indicates it will be minimal compared to previous years. While no one knows for certain, it is likely the Earth is entering a long-term minimum similar to the Dalton Minimum at the beginning of the 19th century. Less likely, is a Maunder minimum. In either case, the planet is entering cooling phase, in which case solar power will NOT cut it. Without energy, millions will freeze and die of hunger. BTW, this is science, not global climate change religion.

MaxBnb
MaxBnb

President Jimmy Carter - Address to the Nation on Energy
April 18th, 1977

We are all doomed if you do not give us money.
And yes, it is all based on scientific recommendations

Sechel
Sechel

To me Greta is a smoke screen. She's speaking to an ideal. I want what's practical and achievable. We can use more solar and wind. It looks cost effective and getting more so. Looks like a no-brainer. Light bulbs that last longer and use less electricity another no-brainer. There's more of these. And coal seems to be an energy source that not only pollutes more than others , its not even cost effectives which is why its being turned off. I don't even take that 100% off fossil fuels seriously but its a good challenge to scientists and engineers. Even the fossil fuel industry says we can do a better job of reducing flaring. This from the engineers employed in the industry.

TumblingDice
TumblingDice

For those who dabble in stocks, two oil company stocks are down the last two days. Exxon Mobil (XOM) and Chevron (CVX). I added to my Exxon position today, buying the stock at $67.50 a share.

Exxon is trading at 5 year lows. Dividend is $3.48 or 5.15%.
I figured why not everything else seems to be trading at all time highs.

Anda
Anda

Spain has gone crazio bonkers also over this. The new socialist government just declared a climate emergency

no doubt with a lot of spending planned. They are really on a roll there, raising minimum wage by 29% over the next two years to the second highest in EU , telling parents they don't own their children and comparing them with jihadis for wanting to opt their children out of extracurricular activities ( diversity of all kinds) . Much more besides, the country has gone completely nuts.

charlly
charlly

create debates!

Stimpson
Stimpson

Hi Mish,

thanks for the story. your last story made me curious about the use of different time lines, so I checked the IPCC report that I could found. Admittedly, there are many publications so I may have looked at something else but in the report most graphs are starting around 1850. I did not see the use of cherry picked starting dates. Can you please provide the link to the study that did?

Sechel
Sechel

Tony Heller aka Steven Goddard is a climate denier and a conspiracist. He basally claims NASA and the National Weather Service have been fudging weather data with malicious intent. Tony Heller is also a birther(see a pattern).

So what's going on?
Goddard's accusations that NASA's peer-reviewed adjustments to temperature data are an attempt to fake global warming. Unfortunately this non-sense gets picked up by FOX news and promoted.

Realist
Realist

Fascinating. Mish would rather follow conspiracies on global warming instead of science. Just like flat-earth advocates. I can only assume that’s because it must be good for his blog. Otherwise I would think he was an idiot.

WildBull
WildBull

Greta is being exploited by her parents.

SleemoG
SleemoG

Sometimes doing nothing is the correct course of action, especially if no one knows what to do, as is obvious from this "discussion."

Herkie
Herkie

Really too bad that this brat jetsets around the globe burning fossil fuels at 525 miles per hour and 35,000 feet just to tell us we need to bankrupt the petroleum industry, without which we could not even survive with going on 8 billion people in the world today. Because our food like it or not is grown with pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, all PETROCHEMICALS. And the dumbassed vegan Nazis that say we should all just go vegan and organic, first of all might I suggest they shove their tofu right up their collective butts? Second, organic farming takes about 50% more land than non organic farming to produce the same crop yields. Man employs about one billion acres of land now to grow food, so sure, we will just have to find another half billion acres of land to keep agriculture at the same level it is now.

What really pisses me off about all this is that it is utterly false. Nothing we can do is going to change what is happening. All the angst and resources spent are wasted. Yes the "house is on fire" because clearly something has changed, I notice for example I have not seen a squirrel in years, or walking sticks, or several other types of bugs that used to be common, now just gone, butterflies and bees getting rare. But that just is not from higher temperatures, it is another cause but they will not even try to figure it out because well they already have it all figured out don't they? Man made global warming is a myth and a religion. And man will die chanting it's creed and catechism.

RPTIII
RPTIII

Would somebody pls fwd a mailing addy to me for Greta. Going to send her a ticket to Paris so she can gleefully skip in front of a speeding Parisian bus


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