Hello Trump, It's Not a Media Conspiracy, It's You

Mish

Trump blames the media for purposely spreading panic to shut down businesses. What about Republican Governors?

Blame the Media

Trump blames the media.

What about the governors in 17 Republican-governed states?

Red State Governors Buck Trump

Politico reports Red State Governors Buck Trump and Stick With Social Distancing

Maryland Governor Larry Hogan

"You can’t put a timeframe on saving people’s lives," said Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan.

Most people think we’re weeks away from the peak, if not months. That’s the advice we’re getting from the smart folks at Johns Hopkins, the National Institutes of Health, the University of Maryland, places like that,” Hogan said.

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine

"By staying home, we can all help protect our essential workers: doctors, nurses, first responders, truck drivers, grocery store employees, etc. Please do the right thing."

Texas on the Fence

Texas is on the verge of a shutdown. Politico reported "Texas Gov. Greg Abbott during a Tuesday press conference signaled he may be open to issuing a sweeping statewide stay-at- home order, after the largest counties announced their own lockdowns."

Tennessee Governor Bill Lee

On Sunday, Tennessee Governor Bill Lee issued New Order Banning Social Gatherings of More than 10; Restaurants and Bars Limited to Take-Out Service.

South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem

On Monday, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem issued an executive order asking businesses to restrict gatherings

Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt

Please note OKC Mayor Holt bolsters Gov. Stitt’s decision to close nonessential businesses to stop coronavirus spread

Georgia Governor Brian Kemp

On Monday Georgia Gov. Kemp closes bars and nightclubs, orders vulnerable to COVID-19 to stay home

Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson

Last Thursday, Arkansas governor orders gyms, restaurant dining rooms, bars closed.

Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts

Ricketts says 'Don't expect to be in church for Easter'

New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu

Sununu says N.H. won’t necessarily re-open restaurants by Easter.

Arizona Doug Ducey

Arizona Governor says schools closed for 2 more weeks due to coronavirus

Vermont Governor Phil Scott

Governor Scott issued a “Stay Home, Stay Safe” order last Wednesday.

Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon

Please note that Wyoming Governor, Health Officer, Order Coronavirus Closures

Trump's Fantasyland

In Trump's fantasyland world, the media and governors are all conspiring against him to cost him the election.

Shocking News

Republican governors in at least 15 states are now conspiring against Trump.

Who would have dreamt that?

Testing

On a per capita basis that is nonsense. Great job? Not!

Go Back to Work

Trump wants people to return to work.

We can argue all day whether that is the right approach, but it is under state control not the Federal government.

Republican governors are doing what they believe is in their best interests.

So are Democrat governors.

The risk of everyone going back to work is that it may undo any benefit of the isolation. This is not a Democrat vs Republican issue.

There is not one governor in either party shutting off state or corporate income taxes just to spite Trump.

Nor is there a media conspiracy rooting for the coronavirus.

The idea is so silly one has to wonder if Trump believes it himself. But most of his his true believers will and that's a sad testament to political reality.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (107)
Zardoz
Zardoz

The Chinese, Iranians, and Italians killed thousands of their people to support the American media's fake news campaign to monkey wrench the trump train. The new Axis of Evil has been identified. Time to smite the evildoers!

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QE2Infinity
QE2Infinity

Well if it ever comes to gathering our pitchforks and heading to DC, there will be plenty of culpable politicians to string up on both sides of the aisle. (Disclaimer: this is just a fanciful diatribe, no threat to anyone is intended)

Sechel
Sechel

fake news has never meant false news, it means news trump finds unflattering or contrary to the message he wants put out. if anything trump's level of accuracy is rock bottom, even his honest supporters will admit as such

Sechel
Sechel

state governors are mostly rising to the occasion. in new york andrew cuomo has greatly surpassed expectations. trump delays his press conferences so as not to compete with cuomo. trump was late to react and is apparently first to quit. frankly at this point the media should stop covering his corona press conferences live. huge waste of time

Sechel
Sechel

the sad thing is that as late as trump was to the game, he appeared to be getting it last week and seemed to be rising to the occasion. he started sounding somber and then by sunday he reversed course. first hint should have been when he correctly said he would utilize the defense production act and then didn't. it's been downhill ever since.

daveyp
daveyp

SE Asian countries who are the best in the world at this are reporting data that unequivocally proves that virus recirculates as soon as measures are relaxed, just as epidemiologists have been saying all along would happen. The world is going to take a very, very long time to get back to full economic output. Way over 12 months

QE2Infinity
QE2Infinity

If one starts from the point that all politicians are scoundrels, Trumps hardly seems that bad. He spent the first 3 years of his administration fending off the ridiculous Russia-gate story and then had to go through a, and forgive the pun, "trumped up" impeacement fiasco. Through it all, the media was there fanning the flames. In fact, the only time the media treated him with any consideration was when he was bombing Syria. They love when the US fights Israel's fights. Thus, if the man is a little paranoid it's not that surprising.

But why get so angry and raise such a fuss over it. I'm much more disturbed by the huge spending bill and what the Fed is doing. Trump's blustering hardly seem worth the effort.

Stuki
Stuki

You know you are completely, 100%, self obsessed to the point of insanity, when you think anyone, in the midst of a pandemic, gives even half a toot about your pathetic "election success."

Take a hint, idiot: You are useless, worthless, expendable, and serve no greater purpose than a speck of dust. You are near infinitely less relevant to anything people care about, as you sit their stewing in your own ignorance and stupidity while spouting nonsense; than a speck of rna with a "hairstyle" not entirely dissimilar from yours....

lol
lol

Can't blame Chump,Economy has been rotting away for close to a dozen years,now it's really startin to stink up the place, It's basically Germany circa 1945.

abend237-04
abend237-04

Come August, if we're still shut down and waiting for the last medico and politician in the country to virtue signal their endless concern for the potential victims, we'll be back to 1932.
Out of the rubble will come an army of Bernie Sanders and AOCs to save us.

What The Donald needs to be doing is forcing everyone's nose into the risk line. I.e.,

At what point on a simple risk of death ratio line, zero through one hundred, would you personally sign off on restarting the economy? Zero is not on the line for any of us, as no one gets out alive.

xil
xil

"the United States has done far more “testing” than any other nation"

trump's assertion the US has done more (quote airquote) "testing" than any other nation is indisputable!

the only question is, what does he mean by "testing"?

Quatloo
Quatloo

This ignores the fact that the latest Gallup Poll shows people approving of Trump’s handling of the crisis 60% - 38%. Hey, I don’t understand it either, but it is reality.

Greggg
Greggg

Beaumont Hospital System here in SE Michigan has reached a point where they are deciding who gets treated and who does not. That's from a nurse that works there. Rural hospitals are facing a drop in revenue and may not be able to stay open. https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/rural-michigan-hospitals-say-coronavirus-crisis-may-soon-force-some-close

Realist
Realist

Italy and the US will both have more cases than China by Saturday. The US will be the epicenter of the pandemic by Sunday. And the individual states are moving toward lock downs of their populations.

From completely controlled to ”out-of-control” in 10 days.

Yet many are still posting that this is ”much-ado-about-nothing”, and a media hoax.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

For those who find the graphic at the top of the post to be tantalizing, but useless:

USA Today, of all people, have an article from yesterday that lists out the states and whether they have non-essential-biz, travel-restricts, nat-guard-activation, and gathering-limits.

Also,

Has a map with shelter-at-home status. For political junkies, they count 15 Dems, 7 Reps. I presume that's out of 24/26 Dem/Rep. Of course, all of that is largely irrelevant, given that such orders are going to be dependent on the situation in-state.

Carl_R
Carl_R

Every time Pelosi does something stupid like trying to stuff arts crap into the relief bill, Trump makes some asinine statement that makes people forget Pelosi. I seriously think he's trying to lose in November, and he wants the loss to be "HUGE".

Ebowalker
Ebowalker

Seeing how it crashed the economy and that logic says until there is immunity or a vaccine this is going to keep happening....wouldn't it make more sense to spend trillions on hospital equipment, medical salaries, etc?

wootendw
wootendw

"Republican governors are doing what they believe is in their best interests."

Political interests. They're afraid to do nothing - usually the best government policy - and get blamed politically if it's really bad.

And, some virologists around the world are voicing a different opinion:

AshH
AshH

You can add Idaho to the list as of today.

MSCowboy
MSCowboy

Unemployment amendment fails, bill passes 96-0. House goes into session tonight/tomorrow, pass w/simple voice vote. POTUS signs.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

The irony of it is coronavirus is just gonna coronavirus. It has no political feelings. This is like a tsunami. You dont quite believe it until it happens. Areas that saw the first cases are now reporting 50% of their hospital patients may actually have been coronavirus all along.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Whether you like Trump or not, you must admit there is some irony in seeing him try to choose the economy over a virus that may wipe out the economy. Trump believes we can grow our way out of anything. Ironically so does the virus.

Jackula
Jackula

Bill Gates: 'keep going to resturaunts, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner'

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rob_abides
rob_abides

This is a selective snippet of his statement, which is in direct opposition to what he said. Why would you do this?

Gates was saying that it's a difficult ask of the economy and people to say "keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner."

jfpersona1
jfpersona1

As just stated by rob, this is disengenuous to the extreme. The context was that Gates was against the possible decision to move prematurely back to 'economic life as usual'.

And the fact that you present it as if it was the opposite just makes you a jackass (huh...how apt, given your screen name).

Carl_R
Carl_R

Gates was all-in that we must be conscious of, and prepare for the worst from pandemics long before SARS-Cov2 ever came to infect humans. See his TED talk from a couple years ago.

Jackula
Jackula

Please...I was not attempting to reverse the intent of what he said...anyone with half a brain would understand that from reading this.

crazyworld
crazyworld

ONLY THE FOOLS DENY EXPERIMENTAL DATAS

I have pointed out many times that we are living outside of reality (Dysneyworld).
As an example, for a long time now we use new theories for the monetary system (ever over-expanding debts ( and consequently money supply and assets prices))
. I noted also the over-use of emotive decision ( women effect, alcohol and drug abuse, video games and internet misuse?) which are ONLY BASED ON BELIEF, not datas examination with our cortex (provided some still have one)
One thing which remain the same however all along is the quest for money as in the first place it allow us to find food and shelter. That is a reality we cannot ignore and hide aside yet.

Sechel
Sechel

Media loves to play up storms and pandemics its good for ratings. Trump loves to play up optimism in the economy and his performance its good for reelection. But the data doesn't support Trump's case. Governors and mayors are waiting for the data to support that the curve has flattened and the situation is beginning to come under control. What a novel idea? Base decisions on data and the experts not on this idea of how wonderful it would be to open up the country on Easter

elvis07
elvis07

former stockbroker for 32 years and daily reader of mish since 2005. through the years content has been very helpful. but can we stick to the markets rather than the TDS? plenty of that on CNN. thanks

QE2Infinity
QE2Infinity

On the believe that misery loves company, and hitting on the themes that governments are corrupt and the media lies, here is an interesting article post WW2

Wmjack50
Wmjack50

Mish as a method of viral control Young people going back to work would help end the virus. Their bodies would quickly recover from the illness and produce antibodies to end the virus. Old folks stay home until clear

LegitJerry
LegitJerry

The gold fondler chronically rooting for more money printing to lift him out of years of under performance, very predictable.

sangell
sangell

People no longer pay attention but there were 16350 deaths from AIDS in 2017 and 37,832 recieved and AIDS diagnosis in 2018. In 1981 451 people died from AIDS and there was panic in the US over this deadly new disease. Today its just background noise so the media does have a lot to do with how we interpret and react to disease. Opioid and alcohol abuse will kill far more people than coronavirus but they are 'old diseases' not the shiny new one the media covers.

LarryK
LarryK

From a high level perspective, there IS a risk to life from shutting down the economy as much as we have. The longer it is shut, the higher the risk. So when you have ANY politician saying "reopening the economy is not worth one life", they are talking crap. There has to be a balance, and that is what Trump is talking about....although for whatever reason he cannot explain this clearly.

And you have to admit, that whenever he "re-opens" the economy, will be too soon for most in the media and he will be pilloried for it. Better to get it over sooner rather than let this fester.

WildBull
WildBull

The media certainly want to instill panic. Probably to raise ratings. Watch the ABC evening news, if you can stomach it. Every word is spoken in a tone of voice that would make you believe that alien invaders have landed. And then there is the ominous background music. And for some reason, the whole thing is done without verbs. WTF??

Carl_R
Carl_R

My guess is that once social distancing flattens the curve and takes us out of exponential case growth, they will start relaxing the social distancing enough to keep the economy mostly functioning. They will settle on a "acceptable" number of cases, at say 100,000 cases a month and 1-2,000 deaths a month. Then by the time a vaccine it out in 18 months or so, COVID will have killed perhaps 20-40,000 Americans, not too dissimilar to a regular flu, albeit that it took a lot more restrictions to keep the case rate low enough to hold the death rate to that.

In the end, we will have all learned a lot about how to avoid catching colds and flus, and we will all be healthier in the years ahead because of it.

WildBull
WildBull

@Carl_R Exponential growth hasn't been stopped by what we are doing now. 100,000 cases a month will take 3300 months to clear through the population. Even if you are talking about 100,000 serious cases, if 10% of the total are serious, that is still 330 months, or about 27.5 years. Get serious. Either it burns through or we live the rest of our live in isolation and poverty.

WildBull
WildBull

I don't think too many will wait 18 months for a vaccine, either. There has been work on a SARS vaccine since 2003 without success. This is similar virus, so don't be too hopeful.

wpbrighten
wpbrighten

Agreed with ' We can argue all day whether that is the right approach, but it is under state control not the Federal government.' But aren't these the same states that will be coming to the Federal Government for assistance when this is finally over. New Yorks estimated shortfalls are staggering as will be Californias. Will it be our Federal Governments responsibility to fund some states underfunded 'Rolls Royce' public pensions?

Sir_Watkin_Bassett
Sir_Watkin_Bassett

It's NEVER Trump's fault, according to Trump and his insane worshippers. It's ALWAYS Trump's fault, according to the insane liberals. Insane, because he's little more than a puppet for hostile foreign oligarchs.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh

"We can argue all day whether that is the right approach, but it is under state control not the Federal government."

True, but the President has veto on any new legislation mandating assistance to States.

This is a balancing act. The virus is dangerous, but so are many things populations deal with every day (AIDS, drug addiction, car crashes, old age, flu, poverty, obesity, mental illness etc.). Some sort of distancing for a while definitely slows it down, but if the damage to the underlying structure of the economy is too great, more people will be hurt by that than by the virus. There are no easy or precisely calculable options.

It would help greatly, however, if people on all sides would calm down and stop demonizing others. The Press has been especially hysterical and dishonest since the 2016 election which has in turn made the President overly sensitive to criticism, and after all the unjustified attacks he has endured this is only human.

Also: just wait a week. Several other countries are reporting excellent, demonstrable results from HCQ protocols. If this pans out in NY early next week, then in a matter of weeks most of the population can start taking it prophylactically, the infection and illness rate will plummet and this will essentially be over. So just wait until next week and then we'll see.

mdecello
mdecello

Why no blue states highlighted in your article?


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