House of Lords Bogged Down on Brexit Filibuster Amendments

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A filibuster is in progress. It may even be successful.

Filibuster in Progress

This is too funny. I wrote yesterday that I expected this to happen. A UK reader told me I did not understand parliamentary rules.

He stands corrected.

What We Know

  1. A filibuster is in progress
  2. There are (at last count) at least 86 amendments to vote on. The tally I have is 100.
  3. The Remainers are desperate to get this passed.
  4. Parliament will be shut down starting September 10 through October 13 by Order of the Queen. The last session will be September 9.
  5. The Fixed Parliament Act does not allow MPs to set a binding election date. It is still at the discretion of the PM.

What We Don't Know

  1. Whether or not the filibuster will succeed.
  2. What Johnson will do if the filibuster fails and the bill is passed.

15 Down 85 to go

Double That?

My understanding is that each amendment has to be voted on twice. Once to suspend the debate, then again to rule it out.

It appears Johnson should have opted for a September 9 shutdown (last session on September 8), but there may be a reason I fail to see.

Reports say Remainers are desperate to get this passed by 5:00 PM Friday September 6 until October 14.

I am also unclear why there is desperation to get this done by 5:00 PM Friday. Perhaps the reporting is incorrect.

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What If?

Even in the event the filibuster fails, Johnson has many options.

That will be the subject of another post.

For now, enjoy the filibuster.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (14)
No. 1-10
dxburge
dxburge

Two questions:

  1. can't the remainders simply decide to automatically reject all amendments thereby speeding up the process?

  2. do they sleep?

avidremainer
avidremainer

Answers: 1) No 2) There is a substantial majority in the Lords in favour of this bill, enough to vote the Government down by rota.

Mish
Mish

Editor

"Answers: 1) No 2) There is a substantial majority in the Lords in favour of this bill, enough to vote the Government down"

Avid Remainer is correct on both counts.

The first question is whether or not the filibuster succeeds. It could. The second question is "what then?"

BJ has options - so do Remainers - post coming up

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus

Can the queen take over as an absolute monarch, and solve this mess once and for all? I am not joking.

Country Bob
Country Bob

Skip the women's blouse.

Get the remainers some diapers and pacifiers.

I don't know all the legal technicalities of British law, I am trusting Mish to do the research and taking him at his word. That a UK government bureaucrat like avidremainer feels so threatened at less bureaucracy tells me the Brexiters must be on to something.

Meanwhile, the EU is still actuarially bankrupt. Their paymaster (Germany) is in a forced retreat. France cannot (is not able to) take up the slack. Italy seems to be preparing to exit next.

That UK Parliament is expending all this energy to remain part of something that is collapsing tells me the politicians feel cornered. They know the EU (as implemented) was a huge mistake. On paper, it seemed like a good idea, but as implemented it is a slow motion train wreck.

I don't know if Johnson will prevail. I do know the EU is collapsing with or without the UK. It will take a few more years to reach a point where they can't shove the problems under the rug anymore. But its circling the drain

Mish
Mish

Editor

"Can the queen take over as an absolute monarch, and solve this mess once and for all? I am not joking."

That's a serious question and I like it.

The answer is no. At least it would be unprecedented throughout history. The Queen acts on the advice of the PM but has her own legal council.

Johnson has not asked for anything illegal, and the Queen will not act on her own.

Mish
Mish

Editor

Thanks for the vote of confidence Country Bob.

I doubt I have everything correct, but I am positive I have more things correct than AvidRemainer and the clown who told me there would not be a filibuster.

Mish
Mish

Editor

Country Bob is correct in his assertion the EU is bankrupt. Not just financially, but politically.

we_will_be_Ok
we_will_be_Ok

What a nail-biter... extra large popcorn please. So much ruckus over not much really in the grand scheme of things. Seems like Boris is the only one who wants to exit. His own party defies him as soon as it is needed to remain. He expels those 21 'rebels', but now those who did not rebel want to bring them back. Shouldn't the whole of the party be outraged?

Anyway '...a dramatic early-hours move, the Tories announced a deal had been reached with Labour that appears to clear the way for the Bill to receive Royal Ascent by Monday...' in return for early elections.

So, this snap election essentially amounts to another referendum on Brexit. I am not sure Boris wins given some many 'sleeper' remainers who just wait there to defy him...

Expat
Expat

the filibuster is dead.