Iran Shoots Down US Drone: "You'll Soon Find Out" if US Plans Strike Says Trump

Mish

Is the US headed for a serious Mideast escalation and military attack on Iran? "We'll soon find out."

Iran shot down a US drone in the Gulf of Oman. The location is disputed. Iran claims the drone was over Iranian territory. The US claims the drone was in international air space.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard says Iran has no intention of going to war with any country but is ready according to the Wall Street Journal.

Less than a week after the U.S. accused Iran of attacking tankers, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said its air force brought down an American surveillance drone in a southern coastal region along the Strait of Hormuz. The IRGC said the drone had violated its airspace and crashed into Iranian waters.

“This was an unprovoked attack on a U.S. surveillance asset in international airspace,” said Navy Capt. Bill Urban, spokesman for U.S. Central Command.

The drone was a RQ-4A Global Hawk that provides real-time intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions over vast ocean and coastal regions, said Capt. Urban. Manufactured by U.S.-based Northrop Grumman Corp. , the RQ-4A Global Hawk can fly for over 30 hours at a time and has a wingspan of about 130 feet—slightly wider than a Boeing 737 jet. Its price tag is $130 million, not counting research and development costs.

President Trump said Thursday that Iran may have shot the U.S. drone down unintentionally, adding that it was probably someone “loose and stupid” behind the action.

“I find it hard to believe that it was intentional,” Mr. Trump said.

On a possible response to the incident, Mr. Trump reiterated that “Iran made a big mistake,” but said that “you’ll find out” how he intends to respond. Mr. Trump didn’t rule out the possibility of future talks with Iran’s leadership, adding: “we’ll see what happens.”

Crash Sight

The Drone reportedly crashed in Iranian waters. But it is not clear where it was struck or where it landed.

Call it "close enough" to be attacked, most likely purposely.

If a country wants war, it can get war.

Unprovoked Attack?

Fox News has this headline: US Navy drone shot down by Iranian missile over Strait of Hormuz in 'unprovoked attack'.

Flying military drones over another country's airspace is certainly a provocation.

I suggest the US provoked a response, even if the drone was in international airspace.

Is 200 feet close enough? 20? One foot inside?

Location Claims

CNN has additional coverage including UN statements and additional maps.

A spokesman for UN Secretary General António Guterres issued this statement: "The Secretary-General is very concerned about developments in the Gulf region, including the reported downing of a United States drone by Iran. He appeals to all sides to exercise maximum restraint and avoid any action that can escalate the already tense situation. The Secretary-General stresses that the world cannot afford a major confrontation in the Gulf region."

Department of Defense Claim

Talking Down the Incident

For now, Trump appears to be talking down the incident, even suggesting he is open to meeting with Iran.

Nancy Pelosi commented "I don't think the President wants to go to war".

“I think it's a dangerous situation,” said Pelosi in today’s press conference when talking about Iran. “The high-tension wires are up in the region. We have to be strong and strategic about how we protect our interests. We also cannot be reckless in what we do.”

However, she doesn't believe President Trump wants to go to war, she said.

“There's no appetite for going to war in our country," Pelosi said. "I don't think the President wants to go to war."

No Appetite for War

Pelosi is undoubtedly correct in her assertion that the US public has no appetite for war. However, the public does not call the shots.

If the war hawks want to provoke a war and Trump is willing to go along, there will be another destabilizing war.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (51)
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Sechel
Sechel

This is all alarming.

Guard rails are gone. We no longer have Mattis or McMaster. Secretary of defense if he's still there is a Boeing Salesman. Bolton and Pompeo are hawks the former an architect of the Iraq mistake.

Trump may not want war but he's not engaged. Often he learns about our own policy watching FOX & Friends.

Trump team has boxed in Iran, trying to suffocate them economically and has made it a mission to torpedo the Nuclear deal Iran is following according to all the monitors and experts.

Now we have tankers purportedly being sabotaged by Iran although the sailors account seems not to back up the mine story and we have a drone shot down supposedly over Iranian territory, though I think its fairly routine for the United States to fly drones over enemy territory.

This all has the makings of a tinder box and a Gulf of Tonkin style incident. The guard rails are gone aka adult supervision. We have hawks in charge in both the U.S. and Iran with moderates there gaining favor since the Iran Nuclear deal went on life support and Trump elevating Bolton and Pompeo. We could find ourselves in a conflict neither side wants and Trump lacks the experience, ability, temperament and wisdom to effectively navigate these waters.

Sechel
Sechel

It's important to take a step back at Trump's three years in office and ask how we got to this place. This just didn't happen. Tensions have gone up after Trump declared economic war on Iran and decertified the Iran Nuclear deal

hmk
hmk

It would be much better to let them develop a nuclear bomb considering how moderate they are.

thimk
thimk

much of this turmoil reflected in the price of gold , it's on a tear. but $130 mill shot in the arse. shows the vulnerability of high price defense gear . I am sure they have another RQ-4a on order.

stillCJ
stillCJ

Editor

" even suggesting he [Trump] is open to meeting with Iran." Trump has been saying that all along. Iran has not responded to the offer. Note that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard has claimed responsibility; the same people that kidnapped the staff at the US-Iran embassy in violation of international law. Truly a group that could be described as a loose cannon.

Mish
Mish

Editor

Let's not confuse the Iranian population with the leadership. Unlike Saudi Arabi, they are generally moderates and pro-west.

The US had a good deal with Iran. Obama's only significant accomplishment and Trump blew it up.

Irondoor
Irondoor

What are the long-term objectives of the Iranian regime? Is it survival or is it a hope that the world melts down in Armageddon so they can meet the 12th Imam who lives in a hole in the ground?

Tengen
Tengen

Any military conflict with Iran would spell the end of the Q psyop. They've been loudly (obnoxiously, even) screaming to everyone that there will be no war with Iran. Trump's "peaceful" label goes up in smoke when the first strikes occur.

Of course there was our sponsorship of a failed coup in Venezuela a few weeks ago, plus the continuation of military action in seven other countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and Niger). Having close neocon advisors like Pompeo, Bolton, and Abrams doesn't exactly imply peaceful intentions either.

People should have noticed last week's oil tanker incident that was immediately pinned on Iran with no evidence. There are powerful factions in the US, along with Saudi Arabia and Israel, that are desperate to start a war with Iran. This is Trump's big test that will show whether or not he'll play ball.

thimk
thimk

45 US military bases surround IRAN . would make me nervous .

Webej
Webej

Except for the unprovoking spy planes off the coast, the June 5 fires and attacks in Iranian port cities have garnered almost no attention.

KidHorn
KidHorn

If Iran flew a spy plane a few miles off the coast of say, Norfolk, I'm sure we would be OK with it.

shamrock
shamrock

So much winning.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Trump is too much of a pussy like every bully that gets exposed. He is really no better than Obama on the international front.

Carl_R
Carl_R

One possible take from the recent aggressive stance of Iran is that the nuke they have been working on is finally ready, and they want to provoke the US into something so they can test it. An alternative take is that there is too much instability at home, so they want to provoke the US to give them reason for a harsh crackdown and consolidation at home.

Blurtman
Blurtman

Time to invade Iraq.

Tengen
Tengen

Reports are coming out that Trump ordered a military strike on Iran tonight, then changed his mind at the last minute:

Looks like this is actually going to happen. Either Trump was complicit with the warmongers all along, or they've figured out how to manipulate him into anything. He's right on the cusp of starting a war, just one more false flag or any manufactured provocation should push him over the edge.

Menaquinone
Menaquinone

Nothing happens until much closer to the election.

The Gray Man
The Gray Man

Everyone who knows anything about spy drones like RQ-4A (Global Hawk) should know that it is important where it looks not where it flies. The shut-down RQ-4A was spying on Iran.

Ted R
Ted R

So far Trump is playing it steady and cautious. Most Americans don't want another war that we can't afford anyway.

Sechel
Sechel

So Trump gave the order, but apparently cancelled it later when he learned there would be casualties of around 150 or so. So now we have to be worried about what kind of decision making process goes on in the white house and why the number of casualties was brought up so late in the decision making process when it is normally brought up early on.


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