Is 1 Hour of iPad Training on the 737 Max All That's Needed?


Boeing is pressing hard to get the 737 Max back in the air ASAP, hoping to avoid simulators. Will the public go along?

If Boeing wants to rebuild trust in 737 MAX, Pilots Say They Need More Training. But what constitutes adequate training?

American Airlines pilots have warned that Boeing Co’s draft training proposals for the troubled 737 MAX do not go far enough to address their concerns, according to written comments submitted to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and seen by Reuters.

A draft report by an FAA-appointed board of pilots, engineers and other experts concluded that pilots only need additional computer-based training to understand MCAS, rather than simulator time. The public has until April 30 to make comments.

APA is arguing that mere computer explanation “will not provide a level of confidence for pilots to feel not only comfortable flying the aircraft but also relaying that confidence to the traveling public.”

It said the MAX computer training, which originally involved a one-hour iPad course, should include videos of simulator sessions showing how MCAS works along with demonstrations of other cockpit emergencies such as runaway stabilizer, a loss of control that occurred on both doomed flights.

APA also called for recurring training on simulators that includes scenarios like those experienced by the Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines pilots, in addition to computer training.

Required simulator training could delay the MAX’s return to service because it takes time to schedule hundreds or thousands of pilots on simulators. Hourly rates for simulators range between $500 and $1000, excluding travel expenses.

American and Southwest Itching to Go

  • American Airlines Chief Executive Doug Parker said on Friday that even if other countries delay the ungrounding of the MAX, once the FAA approves it, American will start flying its 24 aircraft.
  • Union pilots for Southwest Airlines Co, the world’s largest operator of the MAX with 34 jets and dozens more on order, have said they were satisfied with the FAA draft report but would decide on additional training once they see Boeing’s final proposals.

I am not qualified to suggest what constitutes adequate training.

However, Boeing certainly made a lot of bad decisions to this point. The pilots and experts agree to that.

The question is whether the public goes out of their way to avoid these planes? I don't know, but I suspect not.

There just better not be another incident or faith will vanish.

How Concerned Are You?

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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I have a minor in education. A simple video presentation is an insufficient training platform to internalize the information to the point a pilot can react automatically to an emergency situation. A video coupled with simulator exercises would be the most cost effective training. Without the pilot exhibiting the correct response to an emergency situation, the instructor will not know if the pilot has been correctly trained.

The proposal to use only a training video shows Boeing is still more concerned with profit than repairing its brand by making the extra effort to ensure safe flying.


Concerned, very concerned. I'm avoiding the Max and Southwest if in fact they continue to fly the MAX and these "adequate" draft training proposals become the norm. In fact, we're heading on a trip flying Southwest next week and I'll be telling them at the counter, and most likely through email to their CEO if these draft proposals are accepted as-is.


"I don't know, but I suspect not." And you are %100 correct. Most people don't check what kind of plane they will be boarding. I fly a lot so I do. No I'll never fly the max even if it is re-branded as Caligula suggested. BTW re-branding is use to hide problems that the original brand had. IMO the MAX is a turd with wins.


"They don't give a f**k about you. They don't care. At all" -- George Carlin
Far truer now than when he made that statement year ago.