Is this a Hospital or a Coronavirus Deathatorium?

Mish

I have several images of newly constructed Chinese hospitals. Do they look like hospitals?

Bloomberg reports China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus.

People are queuing for eight hours just to get tested for the coronavirus, said the college graduate, John Chen, who’s 23. His feverish mother is yet to be tested.

“At first I was upset that the hospitals and officials I called for help weren’t willing to do their job, but later I realized that it’s not that they are unwilling to help, but that everywhere is way too short of resources,” he said.

“I don’t blame anyone, because if you grow up in China, you learn that’s how the system works.”

The lead image is from that article. Here are a couple more.

View of WuhanKeting

The above image is from China says death toll hits 563 as confirmed cases top 28,000

China’s National Health Commission said that as of Wednesday night, a total of 28,018 cases have been confirmed and 563 people have died in the country. There were 3,694 new confirmed cases. There were 73 additional deaths, with most of them in Hubei province.

New York City tests 5 people for potential coronavirus

Pretty Beds Here

That images is from the FT article WHO expert says China too slow to report coronavirus cases.

The article notes that John Mackenzie, a senior member of the WHO's emergency committee broke ranks and called China’s response “reprehensible”.

There must have been more cases happening that we weren’t being told about," said Mackenzie.

Previously, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO director-general, lavished praise on China for its response.

Questions Abound

  1. Is the world saved?
  2. Is China?
  3. How many have really died?
  4. What about medical supplies?
  5. Are those images of functional hospital or deathatoriums?

Only 500 Dead?

Thousand Bed Hospital Built in Record Time

Hooray! But No Containment in Sight

As Coronavirus Deaths Surge, No Containment In Sight.

And the WSJ reports Wuhan Coronavirus Hospitals Turn Away All but Most Severe Cases

In light of "All but severe cases turned away," do we have an answer for question 5?

This is truly sad.

Economically, a "Made in China" Economic Hit is Coming Right Up.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (37)
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sangell
sangell

Is it any wonder we see videos of sick people resisting police as they are rounded up for 'quarantine'? There are other videos of nurses complaining they must turn and 'clean up' bodily waste from patients unable to do so themselves. The idea that gravely ill people can just be given a bed pan and left to fend for themselves is absurd. Where are the IV stands, wheelchairs etc to move sick patients

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat

I guess I don't understand the tone of hostility toward the Chinese government's efforts. Indeed there were early blunders, but in terms of handling the situation where it is today I wonder what suggestions there are to improve their handling of the situation.

If one thinks the US could handle a similar situation any better, my 30 years working with the medical industrial complex says, sadly, that is incorrect.

As far as accurate statistics go, can someone tell us the precise number of US citizens who have been diagnosed with the flu this year as of today, and the number of overall deaths as of today, and do that all over again tomorrow?

MediaReader
MediaReader

Apparently there are 7 crematoriums in Wuhan operating 24/7. Given 11MM people one could expect 350-400 deaths without nCoV. At least one has 30 furnaces and typical creation times run 1 - 3 hours. Assuming 5hrs total for start to finish 24/5x30 furnaces x 7 sites about 1k per day. For 1 week that's 7k - normal of 2k so about 5k per week potential for nCoV cremations. 10 weeks extends that to 50k deaths. Now consider double or triple cremations at a time and backlogs?

Sechel
Sechel

They got it done in 10 days. It may not look pretty but if it is staffed with doctors and medicine its better than what they had 10 days ago

flubber
flubber

I find the most telling statement to be "way too short of resources". I would think this is the case in most disasters. People are always willing to help, but without resources it is an uphill battle.

Had a close friend that flew into Haiti within days after their earthquake. Amputations being performed with tools from hardware stores and vodka used as a sterilizer.

Schaap60
Schaap60

The hospital picture looks like the black and white pictures from the 1918 Spanish flu.

Ted R
Ted R

It looks like a place where they expect a lot of sick people. A place to treat mass casualties. Doesn't look much like a place where the dying or dead would be stored. If it was a refrigerated building I would say they are preparing for many dead souls.

Carl_R
Carl_R

Those pictures do not claim to be pictures of the new hospitals. The first one is a converted exhibition center. The second one may be the converted gymnasium. The third one, with the pretty beds, is at the Stadium. I don't expect the new hospitals to be fancy, but better than these, and then these would only be used if the two newly constructed hospitals exceeded capacity.

If if the numbers aren't higher than the official numbers, there are 19,665 infected people in Wuhan, of which 549 are dead and 633 are healed. That leaves about 18,500 still infected. If the serious complication rate is 20%, as previously announced, that means a need for 3700 hospital bed, just for the Coronavirus. If the existing hospitals had 2000 beds, and the 2 newly constructed hospitals add 2000 more, they made be able to shut down the gym, stadium, and exhibition hall, or perhaps they will just use them for suspected cases.

Advancingtime
Advancingtime

It will be interesting to see how the Chinese people react to this virus when all is said and done. Anger or simple acceptance are two possibilities. Governments do not always do well with handling such a crisis.

For decades China has been pushing its people towards a more "homogeneous way of thinking." Reducing political descent was a core principle of the cultural revolution led by Mao Tse-tung. This has had broad implications on the country and how its people think and interact. The article below explores "group-think" in China today.

Misc
Misc

To put it in perspective for the whole state of Illinois there are only 29618 staffed hospital beds. It's easy to see how a healthcare system can be quickly overrun.

William Janes
William Janes

The only priority for the Chinese Communist Party(the real government) is cementing their hold on complete power in China and under Xi Jinping centralizing all authority in the General Secretary and the Standing Committee. Their main tools are repression, surveillance, and propaganda (lies and misinformation). When first confronted with the information in December, Xi Jinping, attempted to cover it up, when that failed, notice how he threatened first party members and then required all other officials to follow strict orders from central headquarters, basically Xi Jinping. After that repression is always the first order of business, brutal quarantine. The only long lasting workable plan is first tell the truth, ask for citizen's cooperation, allow a certain level of mobility, avoid hording, encourage citizens to assist each other, and then ride out the storm as best as possible. Pleae let us not hear anything from apologists for China anymore. Also perfectly appropriate for Western countries and South East Asian countries to now apply pressure on Chinese on changing their economic policies and aggressive moves in S. East Asia and Africa. Xi Jinping only recognizes power not goodwill.

Kings-Cross
Kings-Cross

That pic is where the central planners put all the dissidents, and some infected people too


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