Mass Hysteria

The mass hysteria following Trump's meeting with Putin is likely to last for days. Most are outraged. Few see the light.

My article Congratulations to President Trump for an Excellent Summit with Putin spawned numerous some I could not tell if they were sarcastic or not.

For example, reader Brian stated " There is zero doubt now that Putin stole the election from Hillary. So much so that she MUST be given the nomination again in 2020. All potential challengers must step aside. To refuse her the 2020 nomination would be evidence of traitorous activities with Putin."'

I congratulated Brian for brilliant sarcasm but he piled on. It now seems he was serious.

Mainstream media, the Left an the Right were in general condemnation.

Numerous cries of treason emerged from the Left and the Right (see the above link)

It Happened - No Trial Necessary

A friend I highly respect commented "There is simply no question that they did it. You can legitimately claim that it’s not important or that there has been no tie to Trump shown. On the Russians’ side, they can say, screw off, we were pursuing our interests. But you can’t take the view it did not happen. It happened."

There is a question who did it. Indictments are just that, not proof.

The US fabricated evidence to start the Vietnam war and the US fabricated WMD talk on the second war in Iraq. US intelligence had no idea the Berlin Wall was about to fall. The US meddled in Russia supporting a drunk named Yeltsin because we erroneously thought we could control him.

They Are All Liars

It's a mystery why anyone would believe these proven liars. That does not mean I believe Putin either. They are all capable liars.

Let's step back from the absurd points of view to reality.

US Meddling

The US tries to influence elections in other countries and has a history of assisting the forcible overthrow of governments we don’t like.

  • Vietnam
  • Iran
  • Iraq
  • Libya
  • Drone policy

All of the above are massive disasters of US meddling. They are all actions of war, non-declared, and illegal.

I cannot and do not condone such actions even if they were legal.

911 and ISIS resulted from US meddling. The migration crisis in the EU is a direct consequence of US meddling. The Iranian revolution was a direct consequence of US meddling.

Now we are pissing and moaning that Russia spent a few million dollars on Tweets to steal the election. Please be serious.

Let's Assume

Let's assume for one second the DNC hack was Russia-based.

Is there a reason to not be thankful for evidence that Hillary conspired to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination?

Pity Hillary?

We are supposed to pity Hillary?

The outrage from the Right is amazing.

It's pretty obvious Senator John McCain wanted her to win. Neither faced a war or military intervention they disapproved of.

Common Sense

Let's move on to a common sense position from Glenn Greenwald at the Intercept.

  1. Debate: Is Trump-Putin Summit a “Danger to America” or Crucial Diplomacy Between Nuclear Powers?
  2. Greenwald vs. Cirincione: Should Trump Have Canceled Summit After U.S. Indictment of Russian Agents?

Greenwald vs. Joe Cirincione

​GLENN GREENWALD: In 2007, during the Democratic presidential debate, Barack Obama was asked whether he would meet with the leaders of North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria and Iran without preconditions. He said he would. Hillary Clinton said she wouldn’t, because it would be used as a propaganda tool for repressive dictators. And liberals celebrated Obama. It was one of his greatest moments and one of the things that I think helped him to win the Democratic nomination, based on the theory that it’s always better to meet with leaders, even if they’re repressive, than to isolate them or to ignore them. In 1987, when President Reagan decided that he wanted to meet with Soviet leaders, the far right took out ads against him that sounded very much just like what we just heard from Joe, accusing him of being a useful idiot to Soviet and Kremlin propaganda, of legitimizing Russian aggression and domestic repression at home.

GLENN GREENWALD: It is true that Putin is an authoritarian and is domestically repressive. That’s true of many of the closest allies of the United States, as well, who are even far more repressive, including ones that fund most of the think tanks in D.C., such as the United Arab Emirates or Saudi Arabia. And I think the most important issue is the one that we just heard, which is that 90 percent of the world’s nuclear weapons are in the hands of two countries—the United States and Russia—and having them speak and get along is much better than having them isolate one another and increase the risk of not just intentional conflict, but misperception and miscommunication, as well.

JOE CIRINCIONE: Right. Let’s be clear. Glenn, there’s nothing wrong with meeting. I agree with you. Leaders should meet, and we should be negotiating with our foes, with those people we disagree with. We’re better off when we do that. And the kind of attacks you saw on Barack Obama were absolutely uncalled for, and you’re right to condemn those.

JOE CIRINCIONE: What I’m worried about is this president meeting with this leader of Russia and what they’re going to do. That’s what’s so wrong about this summit coming now, when you have Donald Trump, who just attacked the NATO alliance, who calls our European allies foes, who turns a blind eye to what his director of national intelligence called the warning lights that are blinking red. About what? About Russian interference in our elections. So you just had a leader of Russia, Putin, a skilled tactician, a skilled strategist, interfere in a U.S. election. To what? To help elect Donald Trump.

GLENN GREENWALD: I think this kind of rhetoric is so unbelievably unhinged, the idea that the phishing links sent to John Podesta and the Democratic National Committee are the greatest threat to American democracy in decades. People are now talking about it as though it’s on par with 9/11 or Pearl Harbor, that the lights are blinking red, in terms of the threat level. This is lunacy, this kind of talk. I spent years reading through the most top-secret documents of the NSA, and I can tell you that not only do they send phishing links to Russian agencies of every type continuously on a daily basis, but do far more aggressive interference in the cybersecurity of every single country than Russia is accused of having done during the 2016 election. To characterize this as some kind of grave existential threat to American democracy is exactly the kind of rhetoric that we heard throughout the Bush-Cheney administration about what al-Qaeda was like.

JOE CIRINCIONE: Why does Donald Trump feel that he has to meet alone with Putin? What is going on there? I mean, that—when Ronald Reagan met with Gorbachev at Reykjavik, at least he had George Shultz with him. The two of them, you know, were meeting with Gorbachev and his foreign minister at the time. This is—it’s deeply disturbing. It makes you feel that Trump is hiding something, that he is either trying to make a deal with Putin, reporting something to Putin. I tell you, I know U.S. intelligence officials—I’m probably going right into Glenn’s wheelhouse here. But U.S. intelligence officials are concerned about what Donald Trump might be revealing to the Russian leader, the way he revealed classified information to the Russian foreign minister when he met privately with him in the Oval Office at the beginning of his term. No, I don’t like it one bit.

GLENN GREENWALD: I continue to be incredibly frustrated by the claim that we hear over and over, and that we just heard from Joe, that Donald Trump does everything that Vladimir Putin wants, and that if he were a paid agent of the Russian government, there’d be—he would be doing nothing different. I just went through the entire list of actions that Donald Trump has taken and statements that he has made that are legitimately adverse to the interest of the Russian government, that Barack Obama specifically refused to do, despite bipartisan demands that he do them, exactly because he didn’t want to provoke more tensions between the United States and Russia. Sending lethal arms to Ukraine, bordering Russia, is a really serious adverse action against the interest of the Russian government. Bombing the Assad regime is, as well. Denouncing one of the most critical projects that the Russian government has, which is the pipeline to sell huge amounts of gas and oil to Germany, is, as well. So is expelling Russian diplomats and imposing serious sanctions on oligarchs that are close to the Putin regime. You can go down the list, over and over and over, in the 18 months that he’s been in office, and see all the things that Donald Trump has done that is adverse, in serious ways, to the interests of Vladimir Putin, including ones that President Obama refused to do. So, this film, this movie fairytale, that I know is really exciting—it’s like international intrigue and blackmail, like the Russians have something over Trump; it’s like a Manchurian candidate; it’s from like the 1970s thrillers that we all watched—is inane—you know, with all due respect to Joe. I mean, it’s—but it’s in the climate, because it’s so contrary to what it is that we’re seeing. Now, this idea of meeting alone with Vladimir Putin, the only way that you would find that concerning is if you believed all that.

JOE CIRINCIONE: So, Trump knew that this indictment was coming down, before he went to Europe, and still he never says a word about it. What he does is continue his attacks on our alliances, i.e. he continues his attacks on our free press, he continues his attacks on FBI agents who were just doing their job, and supports this 10-hour show hearing that the House of Representatives had. It’s really unbelievable that Trump is doing these things and never says one word about it. He still has not said a word about those indictments.

GLENN GREENWALD: That’s because the reality is—and I don’t know if Donald Trump knows this or doesn’t know this, has stumbled into the truth or what—but the reality is that what the Russians did in 2016 is absolutely not aberrational or unusual in any way. The United—I’m sorry to say this, but it’s absolutely true. The United States and Russia have been interfering in one another’s domestic politics for since at least the end of World War II, to say nothing of what they do in far more extreme ways to the internal politics of other countries. Noam Chomsky was on this very program several months ago, and he talked about how the entire world is laughing at this indignation from the United States—”How dare you interfere in our democracy!”—when the United States not only has continuously in the past done, but continues to do far more extreme interference in the internal politics of all kinds of countries, including Russia.

GLENN GREENWALD: The United States funds oppositional groups inside Russia. The United States sent advisers and all kinds of operatives to try and elect Boris Yeltsin in the mid-1990s, because they perceived, accurately, that he was a drunk who would serve the interests of the United States more than other candidates who might have won. The United States interferes in Russian politics, and they interfere in their cyber systems, and they invade their email systems, and they invade all kinds of communications all the time. And so, to treat this as though it’s some kind of aberrational event, I think, is really kind of naive.

GLENN GREENWALD: It wasn’t just Hillary Clinton in 2016 who lost this election. The entire Democratic Party has collapsed as a national political force over the last decade. They’ve lost control of the Senate and of the House and of multiple statehouses and governorships. They’re decimated as a national political force. And the reason is exactly what Joe said. They become the party of international globalization. They’re associated with Silicon Valley and Wall Street billionaires and corporate interests, and have almost no connection to the working class. And that is a much harder conversation to have about why the Democrats have lost elections than just blaming a foreign villain and saying it’s because Vladimir Putin ran some fake Facebook ads and did some phishing emails. And I think that until we put this in perspective, about what Russia did in 2016 and the reality that the U.S. does that sort of thing all the time to Russia and so many other countries, we’re going to just not have the conversation that we need to be having about what these international institutions, that are so sacred—NATO and free trade and international trade organizations—have done to people all over the world, and the reason they’re turning to demagogues and right-wing extremists because of what these institutions have done to them. That’s the conversation we need to be having, but we’re not having, because we’re evading it by blaming everything on Vladimir Putin. And that, to me, is even more dangerous for our long-term prospects than this belligerence that’s in the air about how we ought to look at Moscow.

Indictments and First Year Law

Mish: I now wish to return to a statement my friend made regarding the idea "No question Russia did it".

From Glenn Greenwald

As far as the indictments from Mueller are concerned, it’s certainly the most specific accounting yet that we’ve gotten of what the U.S. government claims the Russian government did in 2016. But it’s extremely important to remember what every first-year law student will tell you, which is that an indictment is nothing more than the assertions of a prosecutor unaccompanied by evidence. The evidence won’t be presented until a trial or until Robert Mueller actually issues a report to Congress. And so, I would certainly hope that we are not at the point, which I think we seem to be at, where we are now back to believing that when the CIA makes statements and assertions and accusations, or when prosecutors make statements and assertions and accusations, unaccompanied by evidence that we can actually evaluate, that we’re simply going to believe those accusations on faith, especially when the accusations come from George W. Bush’s former FBI Director Robert Mueller, who repeatedly lied to Congress about Iraq and a whole variety of other issues. So, I think there we need some skepticism. But even if the Russians did everything that Robert Mueller claims in that indictment that they did, in the scheme of what the U.S. and the Russians do to one another and other countries, I think to say that this is somehow something that we should treat as a grave threat, that should mean that we don’t talk to them or that we treat them as an enemy, is really irrational and really quite dangerous.

Mish - Six Questions

  1. Is this a trial or a witch hunt?
  2. Do we need to see the evidence or do we believe known liars?
  3. Is Trump guilty of treason? Before we even see proof Putin was involved?
  4. Is the CIA incapable of fabricating evidence?
  5. Even if Russia interfered in the election, why should anyone have expected otherwise?
  6. Has everyone forgotten the US lies on WMDs already?

Irrational and Dangerous

I don't know about you, but I have no reason to believe known liars and hypocrites.

I disagree with Trump all the time, in fact, more often than not.

The amount of venom on Trump over this is staggering.

Adding a missing word, I stand by my previous statement: "Nearly every political action that generates this much complete nonsense and hysteria from the Left and Right is worthy of immense praise."

If you disagree please provide examples. The only two I can come up with are Pearl Harbor and 911. In both, the US was directly attacked.

For rebuttal purposes I offer Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Russia, Iran, WWI, treatment of Japanese-American citizens in WWII, and McCarthyism.

Greenwald accurately assesses the situation as "really irrational and really quite dangerous."

Indeed.

And if indictments and accusations were crimes, we wouldn't need a jury.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (44)
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Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum

Perfect analysis of the situation. Nothing more needs to be said. What surprises me most is that the completely unhinged coalition of neo-con never-Trumpers, leftist globalist authoritarians, Deep State representatives and their claque are not totally embarrassed over the moronic "muh Russia" paranoia they are publicly fanning. They are either retards or complete psychopaths, take your pick.

ML1
ML1

If there is evidence it should be shown and THEN with evidence Russia should be condemned. Now US intelligence community looks weak and ineffective with their "we think" style statements . 1. John Podesta's emails and computers should be taken by FBI and examined and also get Google to give ALL gmail history John Podesta has to FBI and examine whether the phishing "please change your password" and following leaking of Podesta emails to Wikileaks was done by Russia and whether there is anything fishy in Podesta's emails on Gmail. 2. DNC server needs to be examined by the FBI and all the data that Crowdstrike took from the server needs to be given to FBI and there needs to be a FULL investigation of all DNC email server data to find out who hacked it. It is insane that under Comey FBI did NOT take control of the server to make an image of the server for themselves but just let DNC deal with crowdstrike and based their conclusions on what Russia supposedly did on what Crowdstrike told FBI. What FBI did with the DNC server in NOT taking control of the server or making an image of the server is a HUMILIATION of US intelligence and Comey was clearly out of his league as FBI director. There are some claims around internet that the data transfer from DNC server was so fast it could have been done only to a local drive and this needs to be examined also because if true this would point to Seth Rich. 3. Clintons own email server needs to be looked at again and ALL the emails of Hillary that were copied by synchronisation to Anthony Weiner's laptop when Huma used it need to be read and examined. FBI just did some quick search of some words on those emails when Comey re-started the Clinton email investigation after it had been known for 1 month by NYPD that there were Clinton's emails on Anthony Wiener's laptop. McCabe and/or Preet Bharara dropped the ball by NOT telling Comey about those Clinton's emails on Weiner's laptop immediately. The Clinton email server had backup service ordered and if it was from a reputable company those email might be still available in full from there. One other avenue is Clintons devices and laptops of Clintons lawyers. Before using Bleachbit to delete emails the IT technician had copied the whole email database to his Gmail account and in that case Google still has ALL Hillary Clinton emails because Gmail NEVER deletes anything even if you delete things. The Hillary Clinton email investigation was totally incompetent job by Comey with Trump hater Strzok being the agent who interviewed Clinton and only took notes and no video and no audio recording. First rule of investigation is that you take control of EVERYTHING and then you investigate but Comey told Clinton lawyers to whom Comey gave immunity to search through Clinton email and delete those they deemed "personal" and then give rest to FBI so the Clinton email investigation had it's hands tied from the beginning. 4. What DNC and Hillary Clinton and Wasserman-Schulz did to Bernie Sanders is clearly FRAUD so everything that happened in the DNC primary campaign should be examined.

ML1
ML1

The first indictment how Russia influenced US elections by buying 100k worth of Facebook ads is just sad by Mueller since Hillary and Trump spent over a BILLION dollars in advertising. Grasping at straws... . Hillary is the one who was in the pocket of Russians through the Uranium deal after which she received money from connected parties to Clinton foundation. What Clinton did in the Uranium deal and then taking money from connected parties to Clinton foundation would be prosecuted as clear case of corruption in a civilized country. Clinton's behavior is as bad as what corrupt oligarchs do in Russia to enrich themselves at the cost of ordinary people. For some reason Clinton is untouchable...

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

Social mood was shifting away from Hillary. The long term trend of opinion polls has a pattern that indicated she was past her prime. People wanted change, so it only appeared that any attempt to sway voters by anyone was as effective.

Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum
ML1
ML1 said: If there is evidence it should be shown and THEN with evidence Russia should be condemned. Now US intelligence community looks weak and ineffective with their "we think" style statements . 1. John Podesta's emails and computers should be taken by FBI and examined and also get Google to give ALL gmail history John Podesta has to FBI and examine whether the phishing "please change your password" and following leaking of Podesta emails to Wikileaks was done by Russia and whether there is anything fishy in Podesta's emails on Gmail. 2. DNC server needs to be examined by the FBI and all the data that Crowdstrike took from the server needs to be given to FBI and there needs to be a FULL investigation of all DNC email server data to find out who hacked it. It is insane that under Comey FBI did NOT take control of the server to make an image of the server for themselves but just let DNC deal with crowdstrike and based their conclusions on what Russia supposedly did on what Crowdstrike told FBI. What FBI did with the DNC server in NOT taking control of the server or making an image of the server is a HUMILIATION of US intelligence and Comey was clearly out of his league as FBI director. There are some claims around internet that the data transfer from DNC server was so fast it could have been done only to a local drive and this needs to be examined also because if true this would point to Seth Rich. 3. Clintons own email server needs to be looked at again and ALL the emails of Hillary that were copied by synchronisation to Anthony Weiner's laptop when Huma used it need to be read and examined. FBI just did some quick search of some words on those emails when Comey re-started the Clinton email investigation after it had been known for 1 month by NYPD that there were Clinton's emails on Anthony Wiener's laptop. McCabe and/or Preet Bharara dropped the ball by NOT telling Comey about those Clinton's emails on Weiner's laptop immediately. The Clinton email server had backup service ordered and if it was from a reputable company those email might be still available in full from there. One other avenue is Clintons devices and laptops of Clintons lawyers. Before using Bleachbit to delete emails the IT technician had copied the whole email database to his Gmail account and in that case Google still has ALL Hillary Clinton emails because Gmail NEVER deletes anything even if you delete things. The Hillary Clinton email investigation was totally incompetent job by Comey with Trump hater Strzok being the agent who interviewed Clinton and only took notes and no video and no audio recording. First rule of investigation is that you take control of EVERYTHING and then you investigate but Comey told Clinton lawyers to whom Comey gave immunity to search through Clinton email and delete those they deemed "personal" and then give rest to FBI so the Clinton email investigation had it's hands tied from the beginning. 4. What DNC and Hillary Clinton and Wasserman-Schulz did to Bernie Sanders is clearly FRAUD so everything that happened in the DNC primary campaign should be examined.

I couldn't agree more - and the fact that these things are not page 1 material at the mainstream media tells me that they are just as bad as the Soviet Pravda of yore was. In fact, if you look at the hysterics over Putin (who admittedly is not exactly a model democrat), it seems there is a lot of projection going on all around.

Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum

This is also correct - in fact, it can be shown that the social mood is shifting all over the world for several years now. The artificial bubble induced by central bank money printing after 2008 could not restore the bullish social mood of the late 20th century.

Sechel
Sechel

Nothing wrong with a U.S. President speaking to Russia. Absurd to think otherwise. Dialogue is always important.

That said Trump lacked a real agenda for his meeting, he didn't prepare, choosing to golf and promote his properties instead and seemed to use Putin as a character reference against Mueller, once again crying "Witch Hunt" despite the growing number of indictments and plea deals.

The whole thing was a p.r. disaster.

Eddiemegetty
Eddiemegetty

Great article Mish, in the intervention list you can also add Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Panama, Nicaragua etc.

MissionAccomplished
MissionAccomplished

MIC revenue Afghanistan and Iraq? -$3T and counting

MIC revenue Cold War II? -$5T, $10T pick a number. A big one.

Follow the money.

Tengen
Tengen

Yep, numerous victims in our own hemisphere, courtesy of the Monroe Doctrine.

Just watched Schwarzenegger's freak-out over the summit. The American political landscape resembles a forest with excessive buildup of underbrush and dead trees, in need of a good burn. Nobody wants the fire to turn into a conflagration, but our internal acrimony and lunacy needs to come to an end somehow.

I don't want to offer trite quotes about blood and the tree of liberty because the reality of the coming years will be ugly, but something's gotta give before long. The country can't go on like this indefinitely.

Eighthman
Eighthman

The US is a spoiled toddler with gasoline, matches and loaded guns. It has to be stopped to save itself and others. Calling this hysteria irresponsible doesn't begin to articulate how wrong this. It is sad to think that economic collapse may be the salvation of the human race, if it disarms the US.

Brian1
Brian1

I knew it! Mish Shedlockvsky is with Putin!

Of course I was being sarcastic! It's a telling sign of the times when such lunacy isn't obvious. I have been having a bunch of fun with my #HerTurnAgain movement though. When my Leftist friends protest when I explain how I'm finally convinced Russia stole the election from Hillary and how she's owed the nomination it proves that deep down they know Russia had nothing to do with her loss. If Russia really did hack the election there is no good reason to nominate someone else for 2020. Then I get to ask if they're also a Russian spy, why they hate women, etc. Fun times!

#MakeHillaryTheNomineeAgain!

Advancingtime
Advancingtime

Putin is in the news a great deal and the line Americans hear week after week during interviews with Washington's politicians and those entrusted with protecting our security is that Putin is a thug and a bully. The problem with Putin may be linked to the fact that with blunt rhetoric he refused to accept for Russia a subservient role in an American-run world under a system drawn up by foreign politicians and business leaders hell-bent on their New World Order. The article below explores this issue and his role as a statesman.

Sudo
Sudo

Mish – Just subscribed to Mish Talk after long time lurking. I very rarely subscribe to anything on line because of security reasons. Too many people and corporations have too much information on me as it is. However, I have long respected your analysis and comments and it’s about time I show it. Today’s piece on Mass Hysteria was excellent. As a Vietnam veteran who experienced first hand what government lies can cause I second your facts about all the liars in the US government. The idea that so many people supposedly serving this country are so hell bent on war is insanity. Mass hysteria aptly describes a mob and in any mob there is usually one or two people who are egging them on. In our case there seem to be several leaders.

MR166
MR166

Mish it has become clear that it is unacceptable for the people of the US to elect a president that is not directly controlled by the Deep State puppeteers. Trump is a very serious threat to the New World Order and they will stop him by whatever means it takes.

MR166
MR166

It is also clear that that the NWO is using the Cloward and Piven strategy in order to attain their goals.

Hansa
Hansa

Trump is right to treat Putin as a friend and the intelligence agencies as his enemies. Which of the two has been conspiring with his political and corporate enemies against him all this time?

And imagine what Putin thinks about all this? I suspect he and the Russian security agencies are terrified at what's happening. America is suffering a "Cold Civil War" and the players are not entirely sane. SOMEONE is bound to pull a trigger or push a button and start something cataclysmic JUST because they can score points off their opponent. For Brennan et al., its some kind of game: Kick the Trump. For Putin et al., it looks like Russia's being set up for a devastating conflict.

ReadyKilowatt
ReadyKilowatt

(Also commented in an older post) The mainstream media will keep the Russian "hacking" story alive until 2020. Why? Because Clinton/Democrats spent $1.2 BILLION and Trump only spent $646 million. And Clinton lost. You know a lot of marketing departments and ad agencies looked at that number and asked themselves which half of their ad budget they should be cutting. No way it could have been that their media buys weren't effective because MSM is on life support, right? Absolutely not, it was "hackers."

Zardoz
Zardoz

And of course our great friend, Russia, who we are currently in a proxy war against in Syria, had nothing to do with that. Pooty Poot denied it STRONGLY!

Hillary is gone. Obama is gone. Your boy is up. Stop making excuses.

RonJ
RonJ

It IS hysterical.

Russia Russia Russia

How can anyone take them seriously? For once, all i can do is laugh. The reactioin is just so silly.

Russia Russia Russia.

Comedy.

Blacklisted
Blacklisted

We can only hope that one of the indicted Russians would show up for trial and call the DOJ’s bluff. It would force the DOJ to present the proof, including the data from Hillary’s server, which the NSA has, as they consume all data in violation of our privacy.

The unprotected Clinton server could have been hacked by a teenager in their underwear, which is why it was easily hacked by some foreign entity, but there is still no proof it was a Russian. Besides, why is Clinton not indicted for having a private server and making US secrets available to the world?

The establishment media has been stating in their typical know-it-all tone that Russia was at fault in Syria, Ukraine, and Crimea. This is an old hat propaganda technique to repeatedly accuse others for what you are guilty of. We funded the rebels that became ISIS in Syria to overthrow Assad so the Russian gas that flows through Syria to Europe could be replaced by gas from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, as well as, LNG from the US. BTW, go look who is the brain trust behind Genie Energy, which controls a much bigger oil field than the Saudi’s, which is located in the Golan Heights. It should explain why things have heated up in Southwest Syria. Russia has been fighting ISIS in Syria. The US meddled in Ukraine, and Crimea has always been strategic for Russia, just as the Philippians and other assets controlled and virtually annexed by the US. The examples of our “meddling” and asset stripping are too many to mention, but a good start would be to read Confessions of an Economic Hitman -

Nothing justifies Pearl Harbor or 9/11, but Japan was placed under such a strict economic embargo the Island nation was backed into a corner, as we are trying to do with Iran. There’s no need to go down the 9/11 conspiracy hole because we know the 9/11 Commission was more whitewashed than the Kennedy Assassination, and we excused the proven involvement by the Saudi’s. Just like the Las Vegas shooting, and many other fishy events, govt is hiding something from the public that they are supposed to represent.

It’s time to get real, but the establishment cannot afford to risk their perks and power. So, what are the people prepared to do? There is no doubt that an economic reset is coming after rates and the US dollar rises sufficiently to blow up sovereign debt with way too much dollar-based debt. Govt’s WILL get more totalitarian as economics forces their hand. The best course of action RIGHT NOW is to back Trump in order to drain the swamp as much as possible to lessen the impact of the economic reset, and hopefully enable freedom and democracy to emerge out the other side.

RonJ
RonJ

"the 9/11 Commission was more whitewashed than the Kennedy Assassination"

The Kennedy assassination was not white washed. Oswald was mentally unstable. All the credible physical and circumstantial evidence pointed directly at him.

pi314
pi314

This mass hysteria is getting dangerous. We now have US Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) publicly calling for a military coup against the POTUS without any consequence. (The same congressman also wanted to award FBI agent Peter Strzok a Purple Heart for his involvement in Clinton/Trump investigations.) I am very concerned that many intelligent people are pushing the US and Russia towards serious conflicts. This is insanity!

thimk
thimk

Very few advocates on Trump's visit to Russia. The hysteria crosses political boundaries . The Trump dog pile continues unabated. Rand Paul expressed favorable support. If you listen to Trump , one of his goals was to seek nuclear deescalation. If only tariffs had elicited this much flurry.

Cocoa
Cocoa

WheWhen

aqualech
aqualech

I think that the whole Russia concept is 98% bogus and can only hope that the majority of Americans agree, contrary to what Deep Staters, MSM and Hollywood libtards with megaphones say. I can only hope that the Russia derangement is driving ordinary people away. I'm still not sure what the Russians supposedly did, in any specific sense. Those Facebook ads don't count.

WildBull
WildBull

I'll start to believe the Feds when they prosecute: Hillary (I got really sick of having to find out her criminal behavior from the Russians) Some Banksters (the fix was in long before the mortgage market collapsed) Some bond raters (they knew the bonds were worthless when they rated them AAA) Some big pharma executives ( so many Billions of percs and vikes don't escape into the black market by accident)

There is no credibilty anywhere. The Russians blew the whistle on Hellary and the MSM got pissed at the Russians. No one doubts the facts, but it is OK for her to run free. The Clinton Foundation took 145Megabucks from the Russians while HRC's State Department approved the sale of 20% of US uranium reserves to the Russians. The MSM and Feds accept her claim that she knew nothing about the donations.

The swamp is wide and deep.

Neither Trump nor Putin favors the the NWO corporate/fascist world government and that is why they are so despised while criminals walk.

Allsfairthatendswell
Allsfairthatendswell

Hillary Clinton and the DNC rigged their own primary. She took kick backs from the Uranium one deal to the russians. Her illegal and treasonous use of a server to store classified information was hacked by a foreign country. The FBI and DOJ are guilty of a soft coup against the REPUBLIC. THESE ARE ALL FACTs>

XeroChance
XeroChance

What we're witnessing here is decades of planning by the Left, and war mongers of all political stripes, turn to dust in the hands of Trump; hence the panic and urgency to "remove him" from office.

chris_m
chris_m

all this hysteria you see coming out is largely being generated by the political classes and their allies from the mainstream media.

i bet that as far as the ordinary person is concerned, this has left the vast majority of them totally bemused and confused.

perhaps that's why a lot of people no longer read newspapers and watch TV as much as they used to, if at all.

Brother
Brother

We clearly need Russia as the bad guy, the evil perpetrator that will stick a knife in your back when your not looking. (that’s what my Dad always said). Mueller has to be laughing his ass off in the back room. He is running the whole media circus like a puppet show. Ron Paul seems to have his head screwed on correctly. Laughable

Runner Dan
Runner Dan

Exactly! It is as if Trump was supposed to say to the Russians, “You guys interfered with our elections which I won. Please don’t do it again!” Hilarious!!!

MntGoat
MntGoat

Good stuff Mish. Thanks for your work.

auser07171018
auser07171018

Nice article!

Kinuachdrach
Kinuachdrach

No doubt about Oswald, RonJ. This is maybe not so off-topic as it seems, since it relates to the Political Class (which includes the media, of course) keeping the truth from the American people.

There is a very interesting book about the Kennedy assassination by Bonar Menninger (“Mortal Error”, St Martins Press, 1992). Short version – forensic evidence very clearly shows that the President was hit by two different kinds of bullet. A WWII full metal jacket bullet from Oswald, which went through his neck, and Governor Connelly, and was recovered; and an AR-15 bullet which hit Kennedy in the back of the head and disintegrated. The AR-15 bullet was an accidental shot fired by the Secret Service agent travelling in the car behind Kennedy.

When VP Johnson was told immediately after the assassination that the Secret Service had accidentally shot the President, he gave orders for facts to be suppressed – which has given fuel to all the wild conspiracy theories.

whatever_1
whatever_1

It's really rich to read the sheeple complaining about the "T" word after staying silent when the idiot-in-chief said that it was treason for his political opponents not to applaud during the State of the Union.

pgp
pgp

Mass hysteria indeed. People have swallowed the Russian story hook line and sinker across the globe. If you ever wondered why democracy is flawed there's your evidence. People clearly can't think for themselves. How in hell can we expect zombies to make informed decisions at election time about who leads them if their thought processes are limited to choosing which establishment TV station or social medium to hook into.

Zardoz
Zardoz

Trump: 'I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia'. That is a direct quote.

How many times are you going to let this senile fool make a fool of you all?

Arioch
Arioch

. I could not tell if they were sarcastic or not.

I can relate. In 2014 news from Ukraine became so biased we in Russia starter mocking them inventing "up to eleven" biased and dumbed down headlines.

But in 2016 we no more could tell sarcastic made up headlines from real. Ukraine catched up.

In that year news and politicians in America started sounding like Ukraine 2014. We started smirking that infection comes back home and the ukrainization of 'Murica started.

In 2018 it is not started it obviously is rolling over USA in full steam. It is thrillling to see, thrilling in both senses....

Ordell Robbie
Ordell Robbie

Just think, you and all your old white man cronies can live together and get butt friendly in your cells in hell, where all of you reprobates are headed in just a few short years! Amazing how you Jesus people ain't got a clue! LOL!

Blacklisted
Blacklisted

Nothing is as it appears in a world full of experienced propagandists. "Follow the money" always works, which is why Armstrong is so right so often - he tells history by following the money, not hanging on to biases and some disproved theory. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/press/fake-news-their-conspiracy-with-the-deep-state-exposed/