Self Driving Reality: It's Here, In Snow, In Unexpected Conditions, Now

Waymo Celebrates 10 Million Miles of Self-Driving. Can you drive better than the video below?

Waymo says "We’re building the world’s most experienced driver, with over 10 million miles self-driven on public roads and almost 7 billion in simulation. Discover what we've seen and learned along the way from literal curveballs in our path, to navigating low-visibility dust storms, and more unexpected scenarios."

Self-Driving Car Timeline

Tech Emergence provides Predictions from the Top 11 Global Automakers

  • Ford Motor CEO Mark Fields told CNBC that Ford plans to have a “Level 4 vehicle in 2021, no gas pedal, no steering wheel, and the passenger will never need to take control of the vehicle in a predefined area.”
  • According to Reuters, GM is rumored to have plans to deploy thousands of self-driving electric cars next year with its ride-sharing affiliate Lyft Inc.
  • At the end of last year Honda announced it was in discussions with Waymo, an independent company of Alphabet Inc., to include Waymo self-driving technology in their vehicles. The long stated goal of Honda is to have cars that can at least drive themselves on highways by 2020. That is when Tokyo will host the Summer Olympics, and Japan hopes to make it a showcase of their technological prowess.
  • At the beginning of the year Daimler announced a deal with Uber to introduce their self-driving cars on Uber’s ride-share platform in the coming years. Like several other car makers Daimler view mobility as a service as a logical place to first use self-driving cars.

Those are just a few paragraphs. All the car makers seem committed.

Adoption Rate

Most of the car makers will will all be ready by 2020 or 2021. Some say 2022.

But capability is one thing and mass adoption by the public is another. It may take a few more years for cars.

The article concluded "Even with a heavy degree of skepticism it seems likely that if you live in a major city you will be able to hail some form of automatic car ride in less than a decade."

About 2-3 years is more like it, in most major cities.

“Freightliner Inspiration Truck”

A quick check of my calendar show the date to be November 20, 2018.

Self-driving trucks are legal on Nevada highways with permits. Arizona and Florida welcome self-driving trucks without any special permits or reporting.

Long Road to Self-Driving Trucks

Medium comments on the Long Road to Self-Driving Trucks

The author, Mark Harris, points out some remaining issues and he is also a bit skeptical about earky adoption, but the cost savings alone insures it will happen sooner rather than later.

> Unlike the high-profile urban and suburban tests of autonomous passenger cars conducted by Waymo, Uber, and GM Cruise, driverless truck developers have been quietly carrying out their experiments on highways across the Sunbelt. According to figures submitted to the DOT, automated trucks racked up well over 200,000 miles on public roads last year.

> A truly driverless truck would change the face of trucking. In a cutthroat industry operating on razor-thin margins, drivers’ wages and benefits are the largest cost, accounting for nearly half of a carrier’s cost per mile. The first company that can eliminate drivers could undercut its rivals and dominate the market.

> Automated trucks might also reduce the nearly 4,000 fatalities from large truck crashes that occur each year in the United States, some of which are known to result from driver fatigue. There is even a potential environmental benefit, as smart driving systems reduce fuel use and smooth the transition to alternative fuels and electric vehicles.

Timeline on Schedule

The 10-year timeline I posted in 2012 seems to be on schedule.

Mass adoption will first be with commercial trucks, then taxis, then the public.

I expect national regulations to be in pace by 2020. If so, mass adoption by highway trucking will commence by 2022.

The cost savings, competition, and shortage of truck drivers ensures that outcome, like it or not.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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I wouldn't want to be a steering wheel manufacturer!

Detroit Dan
Detroit Dan

Well, there's also this:


"We're not even remotely close to being able to be truly autonomous in diverse conditions," said Austin Russell, CEO of lidar manufacturer Luminar. Motorists rely on human cues that technology cannot detect: the gestures of a traffic cop, or eye contact with a pedestrian or another driver that can help us predict their behavior." (from )

No, self-driving cars are not here. It's still mostly hype. As Steve Wozniak says, "I'm sick of the lies."

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CDOT is adding more truck parking. This is a reaction to new technology keeping drivers honest about their logs and rest periods. But I have to think a lot of this has to do with poor weather events keeping self-driving vehicles stopped. Vail Pass closes pretty much anytime there's snow which even in a drought year is a weekly event. At a minimum the "chain law," which requires commercial vehicles to carry and often use snow chains on the passes, won't work unless there's a driver. Sure there's automatic chains for smaller vehicles, but big trucks don't have that option. My guess is that as fully autonomous vehicles become common they'll just stop when the "chain law" is in effect.

"Truck stops could also bring prostitution and human trafficking, Gamba said, though he admitted the association was purely anecdotal." - Not if there's no one driving the trucks.


I would be willing to pay a lot of money for self driving capability in a new car, even if all it could do is cruise on the freeway while I napped. This seems doable in the near future. I'll be happy to take the wheel in cities, snow, etc.


'About 2-3 years is more like it, in most major cities. " Mish will be as wrong about this as he has been about GDP growth predictions. We are at least a decade away, probably 20 years. Why? Because government roads are involved. How long to build that bullet train in CA? 15 more years at least they say. And you think self-driving cars will be here in two or three years? What a nutty prediction. At least Mish is on the correct side with tulips, I mean bitcoin.