Six Reasons Biden-Klobuchar Would be a Strong Presidential Ticket

Mish

Klobuchar made a strong showing in the latest debate. And unlike Hillary, Warren and Harris, she isn't a lightning rod.

Who can beat Trump? I believe nearly any Democratic candidate other than lightning rods like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or Hillary Clinton.

This issue came up in a Tweet today by Dilbert creator Scott Adams.

Of course this was followed up by the inevitable

Many would suggest the same about Trump. But even if it was true about Biden, it could be overlooked easily if people had any degree of faith in his VP.

If Biden wins the nomination, his team will figure this out, even if he cannot.

Bernie Sanders?

Bernie Sanders has huge issues. He is an admitted Socialist, but he would appeal to the millennials and anyone staunchly anti-war.

The lead images is from How Warren and Klobuchar are navigating sexism.

Klobuchar Jumps in New Hampshire Poll

Navigating Sexism

The lead images is from How Warren and Klobuchar are Navigating Sexism.

I don't know if that latest poll is accurate, but Warren gave her a big boost in the debate while making a fool out of herself with a lie about Sanders.

Warren's Debate Fiasco

For discussion, please see NeverWarren Trends to Top Spot After Her Enormous Debate Fiasco

Six Reasons for Klobuchar

  1. She is not a lightning rod nor has she offended anyone that I am aware of.
  2. She would appeal to many of those wanting a women on the ticket.
  3. She was against most of the nonsense in Iraq although she did support a boondoggle in Libya.
  4. She is a good debater.
  5. Like Biden, she is a moderate. If Democrats want to beat Trump, their best chance is a moderate ticket that independents can support.
  6. Her youth counteracts Biden’s age.

One Term Issues

Biden is up there in years, but so are Trump, Sanders, Bloomberg, and Warren.

The advantage for someone like Klobuchar is Biden would be a one-term president for sure.

And if you think about the setup clearly, it is also an advantage for voters who would otherwise be hesitant to back Biden.

I will list the 8 reasons I expect Trump to lose in a following post.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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lol
lol

Might be 1st election (ever)where no shows up at poles! If there is an "election",it will shatter the low voter turn out record when you consider the pathetic,abysmal array of candidates,Trump and incompetent pretender in the mold of Barak Obama,or 100 year JB who's always got his hand out and actually carries a POS terminal in his pocket to handle the bribes.After Obama I said the bar could not possibly be set any lower,then Trump proved me wrong,after Trump I said this has to be rock bottom.....

Latkes
Latkes

Sexism is an unword. Bullshit.

Sechel
Sechel

I generally agree with your post Mish. My one doubt is she's from Minessota, even though its a purple state Hillary carried it in 2016 so I'm presupposing Biden would as well. Given the importance of swing states I would think Biden would choose with an eye toward carrying some cuspy states he might not otherwise.

I see no possibility that Biden picks Harris for the same reason I was sure Obama would not pick Hillary as a VP. Doubt Biden trusts Harris who like Booker plays games. Saw that on the debate stage and saw that on the Cavanaugh confirmation hearings. Plus Biden already has the African American vote. Harris tried to play identity politics and it didn't work for her. Biden's eight years being loyal to Obama carried the day.

ottertail
ottertail

Hey Mish, do you know anyone in MN? My understanding is that the people who work for Amy can't stand her. I'm not talking one or two, either.

kt44
kt44

Joe Biden does not have any campaign infrastructure setup after South Carolina. In fact, on his website, you can't even apply to positions beyond the first 4 primaries. He has absolutely no one in the super Tuesday states, and that's less than 90 days away. I'm not sure he is actually running.

thimk
thimk

seems plausible , Klobuchar will be positioned as the 1st female prez. but maybe ya 'all can tell me why i see so much progressive media content/news and you feel a moderate dem will triumph ?

wootendw
wootendw

I doubt Biden will win the nomination, especially since that video showed up of him denouncing fellow Dems for not supporting Bush 43 (whom he praised) during Iraq 2. He also has a little girl problem as seen in numerous videos. And his involvement in Ukraine is despicable.

shred1
shred1

Crony corporates control both parties. Grow up, Mish.

Capn_Renault
Capn_Renault

The weakest link on a Biden-Klobuchar ticket would be Biden. After seeing him exploit his public office for (his druggie son's) personal gain, it says a lot about the corruption of the DNC cabal that he is still under consideration.

The impeachment trial (if one happens) will not be kind to Obama or Biden, and it won't change anyone's opinion pro/con about Trump. Trump isn't running for the DNC nomination, he will be running in the general election. Those who hate him now still will afterward, those who like him now will not be persuaded by a rigged partisan witch hunt.

Klobuchar would have to weight the benefit of added name recognition - setting herself up for a better chance in 2024... versus having her name tied to that of a crook.

If she is everything Mish says, Klobuchar might be better off making a really good speech (like Reagan did at the RNC convention in 1976) to set herself up for 2024. Hitching her name to a crook would only hurt her

Greggg
Greggg

Joe Biden? Why is he even a thing?

Jojo
Jojo

"Bernie Sanders has huge issues. He is an admitted Socialist, but he would appeal to the millennials and anyone staunchly anti-war."

Apparently Mish has issues also - unaware of the difference between being a "socialist" and a "democratic socialist". Here, let me help you and others at a similar loss:

Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates for political democracy alongside a socially owned economy,[1] with a particular emphasis on workers' self-management and democratic control of economic institutions within market socialism, or some form of a decentralised planned socialist economy.[2] Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society.[3] Although most democratic socialists seek a gradual transition to socialism,[4] democratic socialism can support either revolutionary or reformist politics as means to establish socialism.[3] As a term, democratic socialism was popularised by social democrats who were opposed to the authoritarian development of socialism in Russia and elsewhere during the 20th century.[5][6]

Jojo
Jojo

It's clear now why Pelosi held off sending the impeachment articles to the Senate for so long. She understands how the process works. By waiting as long as she did, she winds up pinning Warren and Sanders in the Senate chambers as the race to the Iowa caucuses gets closer, thus allowing Biden (her logical, middle-of-the-road, safe choice) time to barnstorm Iowa alone (I don't give any credence to Buttigieg chances at winning Iowa or getting the Dem nomination).

Pelosi is playing 5-D chess!

Jojo
Jojo

I'd be happy if Sanders could implement 50% of what he says he wants to do, but with Congress owned by our corporate oligarchy, it is unlikely that Sanders would get much past Congress. And it will take years to clean up the mess Trump has made. So I doubt anyone should be worrying about Sanders somehow imposingly "socialism" on the USA! This is a good article on Sanders that people here should read. Perhaps you will reconsider your superficial opinion of Sanders, Mish? Better yet, stop watching Fox news!

Bernie Sanders can unify Democrats and beat Trump in 2020 By Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias matt@vox.com Jan 7, 2020, 8:00am EST

The case for Bernie Sanders is that he is the unity candidate.

The Vermont senator is unique in combining an authentic, values-driven political philosophy with a surprisingly pragmatic, veteran-legislator approach to getting things done. This pairing makes him the enthusiastic favorite of non-Republicans who don’t necessarily love the Democratic Party, without genuinely threatening what’s important to partisan Democrats. If he can pull the party together, it would set him up to be the strongest of the frontrunners to challenge President Donald Trump.

.... https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/7/21002895/bernie-sanders-2020-electability

Jackula
Jackula

I'm thinking recession by this summer. This will really derail Trump's re-election unless the Dems really f*ck up which is likely. Doubtfull the DNC will do a much better job of handling Bernie which means the "progessive" voters will stay home. Also a lot of progressive and swing voters are not that upset at Trump to vote anyone but Trump except a big chunk of the LatinX voters.

Jojo
Jojo

Jan. 17, 2020, at 5:58 AM Trump May Be Even More Unpopular Than His Approval Rating Shows

Polls have consistently shown that President Trump is pretty unpopular, with only about 42 percent of the American public approving of the job he is doing as president. These numbers are much lower than what one might expect given the bustling economy.

But does the standard presidential approval question actually capture what voters think of Trump’s job performance? There are several reasons it might not tell the full story. For one, in this hyper-partisan era, presidential approval numbers have become increasingly polarized and don’t move around all that much, so they may now say more about which “side” people are on (pro-Trump or anti-Trump, Republican or Democrat) than voters’ actual evaluation of how the president is doing.

.... https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-be-even-more-unpopular-than-his-approval-rating-shows/

Aaaal
Aaaal

Mish is way off on this one.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh

Biden's candidacy is a sham. He's there to give the Lawfare crowd a peg to hang impeachment on, especially since apparently Ukraine operatives were messed up in some DNC stuff, so there's more than the Burisma Bribery Boondoggle.

Biden won't last as a lead candidate. He's just too old and scatter-mouth.

It's not about age, it's about wattage. Like him or hate him, Trump has wattage, both in media and also in person. Klobuchar is a mouse. No presence.

Looking forward to reading Mish's reasons for Trump to lose. Personally, I think he either won't run for some legal reason, or he'll win big. Trump is polarising. Those who hate him - mainly in Dem political spheres and those who follow their media - hate him a lot and nearly all of them have TDS, i.e. are deranged about it (witness the current Articles on the one hand and the Schiff-Nadler-Pelosi-Schumer rhetoric on the other - absurd and insane, aka: DERANGED!!)

I think Trump is going to hit various players in the Lawfare-Intel-Media-Congressional networks against him, and hit them hard. I think he's going to win big with ethnic minorities and independents if impeachment is handled like Kavanaugh, which looks like the play they are making with the Parnas Reality TV Episode.

So because he is polarizing, if he manages to hit the other guys hard, many of them will deflate and not show up to vote, whereas his backers will be more energised. At his most recent 20,000+ rally, half the attendees were Democrats or Independents or had never voted in decades. That is a clue...

bayleaf
bayleaf

Ah... no, you're completely off base. Most believe Biden is corrupt. Just because some are willing to overlook this fact doesn't change it. And Klobuchar wouldn't damage her reputation by associating with a crook.

HAL9000
HAL9000

Klobuchar was going full-on warmachine in the last debate, while Biden's neurons were disintegrating before our eyes. How were these two bozos on stage while someone like Yang wasn't? Really?

Bernie at least has good plans. Being assimilated is a human right. https://hikinginthelight.us/bernie-sanders-says-his-ideal-society-is-the-borg/

abend237-04
abend237-04

Biden was by no means smart when he had a brain. Now, he's just pitiful. No way he makes it through the convention. I see Hillary summoned in the 11th hour to run again...and lose.

RonJ
RonJ

Zero Hedge headline: Not Just Hunter: Widespread Biden Family Profiteering Exposed

Wmjack50
Wmjack50

democrat politicians are soon to be out of work read the book Profiles in Corruption

SHOfan
SHOfan

Biden is on video boasting about how he used $1 billion in gov't aid to extort the President of the Ukraine. I would think the Republicans would use it.
Surprised they haven't already.
Makes him look bad, and it is exactly what they have accused Trump of.

Mike2112
Mike2112

There's only one flaw with this assessment: it doesnt explain how you get the Millenial dems to forget that Bernie the Progressive was robbed of the nomination in 2016. Perhaps the DNC is underestimating how thoroughly and effectively their friends in Academia have been Brainwashing their young voters. The young Progs arent going to take it lightly if Warren or Bernie or Yang isnt the nominee.

I dont see how the Dem party can last going fwd trying to be the party of ppl who vote for the Bidens, Pelosi's, Feinsteins and the ppl who wante Bernie, Warren etc. I expect the dem party to eventually splinter off a more Progressive party.


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