Trump Walks Out of Shutdown Meeting With Pelosi in Few Minutes, Says Bye-Bye

Tump met with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer after a one sentence question.

Well, that was that. The meeting didn't last long.

Vice-President Mike Pence told reporters he was disappointed that Democrats were "unwilling to engage in good faith negotiations".

I fail to see how good-faith negotiations can happen. The wall is not a candy cane that can be broken in two. Nor can we declare a tie and move on.

One side demands a wall, the other side demands no wall. Want to build half a wall? A wall half height? There isn't much room to compromise here, no matter which side you support.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

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shred1
shred1

Nuts! There is clearly room to compromise. Clearly. Trump has said he would come down and negotiate from 5.7 billion, but Nancy Pelosi said "NO" to any funding for any part of a wall/fence. Ridiculous! She AND Charly Schumer voted to build 400 miles in California under Bill Clinton, and 300 miles in Texas under GW Bush. They also voted for more in 2013 and 2018 and approved funding for the same to be built by Border Patrol, which has already built over 200 miles in Texas and elsewhere. BP is currently building another 100 miles in New Mexico just to the west of El Paso, Texas.

What's the difference in 5.7 and Nancy's 1.6 in "border security"? Not much more than her tossing on another 1 billion and agreeing to some steel slat wall fencing, which she's voted to build and has built before.

There's only one reason she is saying no, and one reason only. The #1 reason Trump voters wanted him was to build a wall. Trump's not even asking for a lot, as one billion in funding for wall/fence translates to about 200 miles.

The difference is a rounding error at the Pentagon. They spend that much at lunch time. It ain't the moon and back for lunch.

You're a hypocrite, Mish.

TechDude
TechDude

Trump’s tantrum is absurd, but progressives are also absolutely foolish if they think that a government that “shuts down” so often should have a monopoly over our health care, retirement and other key life decisions.

This is all about tokenism at this point — the far right posturing about “a wall to keep out icky brown people” and the far left posturing about “anyone who wants to move here and get government benefits should be able to.”

Sechel
Sechel

Schumer accused Trump of "using people as leverage" during the meeting, a congressional aide familiar with the meeting told NBC News. "Why won't you open the government and stop hurting people?"

"Because then you won't give me what I want," Trump replied, according to the aide.

pgp
pgp

The problem with modern politics is that it is populated by ignorant, head in the sand, establishment elites with no real understanding of the human sciences who lack the ability to think outside the box. Those in government follow each other like drones when times are good but devolve into headless chickens when things go wrong and their narrow expectations are threatened. Ultimately their top priority is themselves and their cronies. To expect good policy from such leadership is like believing in Santa Claus.

BornInZion
BornInZion

This whole charade only makes sense if it is really about 2020 and energizing the respective base constituency of each party.