World Seriously Needs to Tell Trump "Go to Hell"

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The US threatens German companies with sanctions if they continue with Nord Stream 2. This is not our place.

Neither the US nor President Trump should not be the sole decider of global sanctions. If the EU wants to do business with Russia to secure natural gas, that is EU business.

Nonetheless, U.S. Warns German Companies of Possible Sanctions Over Russian Pipeline.

U.S. President Donald Trump has accused Germany of being a “captive” of Moscow because of its reliance on Russian energy and urged it to halt work on the $11 billion gas pipeline. U.S. Ambassador Richard Grenell addressed the issue in a letter sent to several companies, the U.S. Embassy said on Sunday.

Juergen Hardt, foreign policy spokesman for Merkel’s conservatives in parliament, was scathing in his criticism of the U.S. move.

“That the U.S. ambassador is now turning to German companies with direct threats is a new and unacceptable one-sided tightening of the tone in the transatlantic relationship,” Hardt said. “If the U.S. president thinks he has to publicly show he is getting tough on Russia in view of the many question marks regarding his relationship with Moscow, he should not thereby impair the relationship with his most important ally.”

“The letter reminds that any company operating in the Russian energy export pipeline sector is in danger under CAATSA of U.S. sanctions,” the embassy spokesman said, adding that other European states also opposed the planned pipeline.

CAATSA

CAATSA stands for Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.

Imagine Europe passing a CEATSA and directly threatening US businesses. That's how arrogant and wrong this policy is.

A Bloomberg Nord Stream 2 Editorial gets it correct.

Reducing Europe’s dependence on Russian gas is in the U.S.’s interest. But penalties against the companies financing Nord Stream 2 would arouse public resentment in Germany and strengthen the project’s supporters.

The current political instability in Berlin might get worse. And the U.S. risks alienating Europeans who oppose the pipeline but object to Washington interfering in their energy policies.

Iran Sanctions

The US unwisely pulled out a a nuclear deal with Iran over the objections of the EU. European firms pulled out of deals over sanction threats.

In November, EU leaders discussed setting up a European 'clearing house' to bypass US sanctions.

A special clearing house designed to allow European companies that trade with Iran to bypass newly reimposed US sanctions will be set up in Europe within months, possibly in France or Germany.

Donald Trump pulled the US out of the deal earlier this year, breaking with Europe, and on Monday a full panoply of US sanctions came into force. The package included the threat to sanction companies or countries that buy Iranian oil, the lifeblood of its economy.

Bullies Never Stop

Bullies never stop their bullying.

The EU needs to immediately, if not sooner, complete its European Clearinghouse to bypass absurd sanctions on Iran and threats like these we see today.

Proper Response

I am OK with Trump expressing an opinion, but Trump, like all bullies, seriously needs a black eye for extremely arrogant bullying.

There is only one proper response from Merkel and there is no need to be polite about it: "Dear president Trump F off. This is our business. The EU does not get involved when you make a deal with Canada and you won't tell us what bilateral deals to make either."

A European clearing house for non-dollar transactions will be a smack in the face that Trump needs and deserves.

If Trump responded by pulling pulling troops from Germany or leaving NATO, I would praise that action by the President. We cannot afford to be the world's policeman.

If Trump wants to do something for the US, instead of bullying German companies, he can bring all the troops home. That is our business. Nord Stream is European business.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (48)
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abend237-04
abend237-04

Bullies never stop. Neither do deadbeats, and Germany is one. Merkel's implied messaging is clear to all but idiots: Dear Donald, we're getting in bed with the bear by becoming dependent on Russia for gas, but I'm assuming we in Europe can continue to rely on you dumb American politicians to spend a few hundred billion extra in defense every year to protect us. Regards, Angela

Mish
Mish

Editor

Angela blows with the wind on most things, but she stupidly stuck with her immigration policy forever.

Harbour
Harbour

Mish you mention bullies like the EU isn’t one of them.

tz1
tz1

Trump would just tweet: "World tells me to go to hell - but they are the same thing and I've been doing everything to get the USA out of Global Hell. Sad!" When is Merkel going to leave NATO? The problem with entangling alliances George Washington cautioned us against is they are entangling. And you will moan when as a response Trump sanctions Germany (consider Deutchbank and VW Diesel scandals might be a reason we should have done so).

The greater problem is the Swamp is the one poking Russia. Apparently we need to create more enemies.

pi314
pi314

The Germans are free to do business with Russians and the U.S. is free to sanction the Germans. Everyone is free to do or not do whatever he/she wishes. So what is the problem?

Mish
Mish

Editor

"Mish you mention bullies like the EU isn’t one of them."

Excuse me for pointing out that two wrongs don't make a right.

Moreover, the EU is bullying the UK now, and I have mentioned that countless times.

Carl_R
Carl_R

Wait, I thought Trump was supposed to be under Russian control?

2banana
2banana

When you run to a bully (USA) to get protection from another bully (Russia), don't be surprised when the first bully asks for favors.

The only real long term solution is to be able to stand and fight on your own.

But not only can't the EU fund their own defense, they can't even get their young men to even join their minuscule armies in sufficient numbers.

In such a case, the proper response is to tell the EU to "shut the f*ck up" and pray that the bullies never figure out how to work together.

TechDude
TechDude

I’m not sure what’s funnier — Trump’s deep involvement in EU affairs to try and block any major business with the Russians, or our useful idiot opposition party shrieking that Trump is an agent of the Russians.

One thing is certain: politics make most True Believers into very stupid people.

gregggg
gregggg

Trump offered LNG from the US... condensing, shipping, distributing. Sounds real expensive compared to pipeline distributed natural gas, doesn't it?

Mish
Mish

Editor

"The Germans are free to do business with Russians and the U.S. is free to sanction the Germans. Everyone is free to do or not do whatever he/she wishes. So what is the problem?"

The problems are obvious. It's in violation of WTO rules It's in violation of existing trade treaties Without widespread approval based on grounds, it's an act of war. It's blatantly stupid

Other than that, no nothing wrong with it - sheeesh

Sechel
Sechel

one can catch a ton more flies with honey than with vinegar. some master negotiator

Sechel
Sechel

trump's foreign policy is Sybil like. On one hand he treats Europe and NATO as if its the enemy and wondering if the U.S. has its back and then this gets upset about pipelines and plans to engage in their own defense. Trump is schizoid

Realist
Realist

Agree with you 100% Mish. I feel sorry for the US as they have elected the worst President ever. Hopefully the next president will be sane.

KansasDog
KansasDog

I like the idea of bringing troops home, but what would they do here?

Mish
Mish

Editor

"But Mish will still howl that such tariffs is an act of war... LOL."

Man the idiots are out in force tonight.

RonJ
RonJ

"U.S. President Donald Trump has accused Germany of being a “captive” of Moscow"

The irony being that Trump has been accused since before Day One, of being a captive of Moscow, as a Putin Puppet. It has been a constant drum beat of propaganda. What effect is this having on Trump's foreign policy, as he is attacked by those who attempted to prevent him from becoming President, through their abuse of power, meddling in our election? Since the election, their meddling hasn't stopped, which has caused how much havoc?

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

This Russian-German pipeline is less about economics and more about ensuring Germany and Russia don't collude in conquering Europe.

Taunton
Taunton

Agreed Mish. Not our business over there